Gabriel

This. 100%.

Its not. I get where he's coming from. If you want a modern Downtown you don't want an industrial relic in the photos. I'd recommend keeping the old building if its not in the way of some taller tower, but either way, remove the vertical smokestack.

I do too, but people say "Northeast Ohio" all the time when them mean Greater Cleveland--or even Cuyahoga County--or even Cleveland itself. Northeast Ohio is the area that includes Youngstown and Canton---but people often say it when the mean Cleveland and the surrounding burbs. It weakens Cleveland and it is probably led by suburbanites. Crain's had a great article on it a while ago, but its behind a paywall. Its also on the CFC site--I send this to people from time to time when I hear people saying NEO when they should be saying Greater Cleveland--I keep it bookmarked!: https://www.centerforcleveland.org/blog/please-stop-saying-northeast-ohio

Exactly why it makes no sense to splice up the Cleveland Fortune 500 list into sections---its all one big metro area!

The Fortune 500 list by city IS NOT a list by MSA; its a list by city. Akron---and Lakewood--and Solon are all part of Metropolitan Cleveland. Metropolitan Cleveland is made up of two different MSA's thanks to bad US policy. Akron is part of Metropolitan Cleveland, no question. Akron's economy and people are intertwined with the economy of Cleveland. People from Akron go to Cleveland restaurants, airports, sports events, concerts, etc. So the US Govt says that the Cleveland MSA must exclude parts of Metropolitan Cleveland doesn't mean we--who understand this region better than policy makers in DC---must blindly follow such nonsense. Akron is part of the Cleveland economy no question.

Yeah!!! We shouldn't try to grow. We should all root for Cleveland to get smaller and smaller and be a cute little quaint town--like Chagrin Falls!

"Stock values are said to reflect the expectation of future earnings" or hype. Tesla, WeWork, etc....

Canton is the obvious odd man out! Who wants to drive 60 miles when you Ai showed Burke was 1 mile away?

Your list makes Burke look like the best airport in the country---no other airport is as convenient.

Yeah, they're in Akron, but Akron (and all of Summit and Portage Counties) are part of Metropolitan Cleveland, which is the two MSAs to use government-speak.

Good point! That would put them here: 216 Parker-Hannifin - $19.1B 331 FirstEnergy - $12.5B

Yeah, I was referring to Burke. But how does a list of distances "show" "Hopkins can do the job of Burke w/o much affect in experience "? We'll definitely have more delays and stuff at Hopkins if all that other air traffic will be there from Burke. That impacts experience for sure. And for your own "distance" post, zero miles is certainly much further than 9 miles. You can walk to Burke, but you wouldn't walk 9 miles. If your plane leaves in 30 minutes, you could make it out of Burke, but with the distance to Hopkins and TSA line crowds (even with pre-ck or clear), you still wouldn't make your flight. That's a big change on experience.

That ChatGPT output is missing an obvious one!

Stock value isn't always truly telling of a company's real value. Based on market capitalization, wasn't Tesla recently worth like 200-300 times Ford and GM combined, despite producing far fewer cars worldwide? I like the use of revenue for the rankings---which is what Fortune does. The Center for Cleveland shows the revenue numbers for each of the Cleveland F500 firms. https://www.centerforcleveland.org/news

Here are the 2024 Fortune 500 companies by city and rank: Cleveland - 9 62 Progressive 176 Sherwin-Williams 185 Cleveland-Cliffs 204 Goodyear Tire & Rubber 216 Parker-Hannifin 331 FirstEnergy 386 KeyCorp 450 Avery Dennison 492 RPM International Cincinnati - 7 25 Kroger 50 Procter & Gamble 284 Western & Southern Financial Group 321 Fifth Third Bancorp 393 Cincinnati Financial 437 Cintas 470 American Financial Group Columbus, OH - 5 14 Cardinal Health 75 Nationwide 217 American Electric Power 375 Huntington Bancshares 481 Bath & Body Works Toledo - 4 285 Andersons 379 Dana 407 Owens Corning 500 O-I Glass Findlay - 1 24 Marathon Petroleum Wooster - 1 446 J.M. Smucker

You clearly don't WFH.

"With CCTV cameras and other tech these days..." specifically what other tech are you referring to? If effective "technology" were there, then there wouldn't be chases. Yes, a CCTV can capture a license plate. So what? It will show who the car is registered to (and probably the person who just had his/her car stolen), not the person driving the car who stole, carjacked, or pistolwhipped the original driver or owner. CCTV doesn't identify the driver or the other people in the car. And even if it did and police knew all the occupants in the car, that doesn't mean any of them will readily be found anywhere ("at their residence or job") so they are free to commit many more crimes. I'm not saying chasing is without risk or dangers, but there is also significant risk and danger of doing nothing.

Cleveland-Cliffs is in talks to buy U.S. plants of Russia’s NLMK "Cleveland-Cliffs Inc. is in talks to acquire the U.S. Midwest assets of Russia’s largest steelmaker Novolipetsk Steel PJSC, according to people familiar with the matter. New York-listed Cliffs has expressed interest in a potential deal to NLMK, as the steelmaker is also known, the people said, asking not to be identified because the matter is private. Some of the people said that Cliffs has signed a non-disclosure agreement. The assets, which consists of steel-mill facilities in Indiana and Pennsylvania, could be valued at more than $500 million in a potential sale, they added...." https://www.crainscleveland.com/manufacturing/cleveland-cliffs-eyes-purchase-us-plants-russias-nlmk

Is there a thing called "Lorain Plaza" -- not a strip mall in Lorain, but some nice office, office lobby, or hotel type place? I was just watching House of Cards--Season 5, Episode 7-(5:55)-and there's a scene where Mark Usher and Conway's wife are talking in the lobby of some building and in the background is a sign, after their conversation, the sign can be fully seen in focus and it says: Lorain Plaza Cleveland with a logo above the "Lorain Plaza" I didn't recognize the logo or the place. Is it a fake place trying to make it look like they're in Cleveland? That would make sense, but I think they're supposed to be in Washington--there was no mention that they were going to Cleveland for something in the show and the previous scene with Mark Usher was at the White House.

cool. its almost invisible.

^If on that list Lumen II is the Playhouse Sq foundation project at the Greyhound station, I'd say that would be next. On your list, except for the Justice Center, its the only one not profit-based, and lending rates/construction costs too high for lots of for-profit projects. Re the Justice Center, yeah, that'll be a while for anything to happen there.

why is the best piece of land---the riverfront---"ODOT Project Area"? Is that for the state of Ohio to put a concrete mixing facility or salt storage or something for more highway-related activities? Part of their beautify Columbus and screw Cleveland plan (and funded heavily by Cleveland)?

I hope 4am slice is successful and open til 5 or 6--we desperately need late night food downtown.

True. it stayed open and its still open now. Also, its now part of the "Autograph" line, moving from Renaissance. https://www.marriott.com/en-us/hotels/cledk-hotel-cleveland-autograph-collection/overview/

I must be bad at explaining! If you take a piece of land and use ALL of that land and put a 10 story bldg on it, you will have twice as much building as you would if you built a 5-story building on it. If all units are the same size (for example) then you get 2x the number of units in the 10-story bldg as you would with the 5-story bldg on the same land. If you build a bldg on a piece of land it is difficult to build on it with something else unless you destroy the original building. As @Dino was saying, land is precious. If there is a short, five-story structure on the eastern half of the land and that structure connects with all of the western half the land, its not easy for someone to come in a build a 10-15-story bldg on the eastern half of the land. Its not relevant that the current owner never said he wanted to build two towers on that site, as in a few years anyone could have come along and proposed such and who is say the current owner today will be the same owner in 5-10 years. Look at the apts that were built on Mayfield and Euclid with a big parking lot in front and McDonalds in the late 80s/early 90s. That was supposed to be a parking lot for the bldg. Now look at it---that parking lots is part of the Uptown project. So things change and land was deemed more valuable. But its easy to bulid on a former parking lot. If there is a five-story residential bldg there, its more difficult, and likely blocks decent, better development from happening. As a result, the prime land will give us less density, less people, less street activity, less retail than the original plans would have allowed.