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^ yes, it's pretty close to this from AIGA http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm/symbol-signs

We suffered the GREATEST LOSS OF ALL BIG CITIES in the country. That's news. Even if it is the smallest loss in total people in a while, we did lose the highest percentage of any big city in the country. AMN, don't know if I agree with your statement "That's news", it's recycled news at best -- yes Cleveland suffered the biggest loss (in raw numbers not percentage) but Cleveland has been losing and often leading in population loss for decades. This part of the article: "Cleveland's rate of decline slowed in 2007, a year when several major cities -- including Baltimore and St. Louis -- saw rates of decline accelerate. And the numerical loss was the lowest in five years." is the real news IMO and should have been the lead in the article as well as the headline.

You could be on to something there KJP but I think they also are just catering to those who still buy their paper? I think if the PD were to headline an article like the one today in a positive light -- City Population Loss Lowest in 20 Years or something like that, it would freak out 80% of their subscriber base.

I always thought that was the other way around :?

I couldn't agree more Hts44121. Plus, I have a lot more confidence that we'll end up with the truly great nabe Stark hypes in all his marketing if done this way. I'm sorry, I know developers like the control and scale of mega-projects, but what great neighborhood in this country, or anywhere in the world, has been created by a single developer.

of course there's always an element of truth to satire :wink:

Was just in Sandusky this past weekend and "Lake Erie Shores and Islands" or something like that is the new official tourism moniker so I think "Northcoast" is finally, officially being put to bed, in some places anyway...

I had kind of come to grips with this OC if indeed it was a boulevard (35 mph and lots of lights and intersections) but its sounds like it may be heading in another direction. Either way, those of us who champion Cleveland really need to find a way to bring together all the various constituencies and impact the direction of this and the interbelt project in general - somehow become a shadow NOACA group promoting smart growth/transportation planning. KJP's idea (and I'm paraphrasing) of making 490 to 77 to 90 the new interbelt and scrapping the current plan in favor of a boulevard into downtown make more and more sense each day. Despite all the planning/consulting money money already peed away, why not force ODOT to start over and do it right?

Wow, only twice...you were really lucky! Yeah, I know it can be must worse... we were riding after the morning rush. To bring it back to RTA -- if the red line could run at speeds similar to the CTA trains (for certain stretches anyway) I think the trip from Hopkins to TC would take someting like 12 minutes...

Yes, I agree it is particularly bad in and out of TC from the viaduct. I think that is definitely the system not the operator causing that. I know when I've been on the red line standing in front (where you can see the track ahead) there will often be a blue/green or another red line train in sight ahead which I'm guessing is part of the problem. I think the trains tend to get stacked up a bit during rush hour with the long boarding lines at stations. Maybe this will get better with POP.

... The beep beep is the in cab signaling system telling them to slow down. I believe when they don't slow down enough (or fast enough) is when they have to then come to a complete stop (forced by the system) before continuing. As an aside, I was on the blue line in Chicago last week and had the exact same experience twice, the train slowed and then had to stop completely and restart

I hauled the tripod down to the the free Cleveland Orchestra concert on Public Square this evening. Haven't tried taking night time photos in years so these are not that great but it was fun playing around with he camera until the downpour started! The first two were without the tripod: The rain drops were starting when I took this one:

Please email or call LaTourette and let him know how stupid the below is. I already have... http://blog.cleveland.com/plaindealer/2008/07/get_reimbursed_for_driving_to.html Get reimbursed for driving to work? Posted by Stephen Koff July 02, 2008 14:05PM You don't need a politician to know that gas prices are high. But maybe you want one to do something about it. With Congress on its annual Fourth of July break, lawmakers across the country are touting their proposals for bringing down fuel prices. Sen. George Voinovich has been going around Ohio telling folks that this country needs to drill more and build more nuclear power plants. Sen. Majority leader Harry Reid of Nevada has been saying the answer is more alternatives. Today, U.S. Rep. Steve LaTourette of Concord Township has been saying that whatever the long-term solution is, consumers need a little short-term help, too. His proposal: The "Commuter Relief and Fuel Efficiency Act of 2008," which would reimburse commuters for up to 30 miles per day, round trip, five days a week.

Wouldn't a weekly outing to a metropark or nearby state park take care of this need, plus she would get to spend an additional hour or more each day at home with her kid by skipping the commute from an outlying county to downtown Cbus. The underlying antisocial/antidiversity side of sprawl never comes up in these articles -- that topic is taboo I guess. It's always about space, a big yard, etc. Seems to me its a big part of what motivates people to keep seeking outward escape for all the perceived urban evils -- to the point that they won't take their kid to a park...

hey, when a Chili's opens on Euclid we'll know that downtown Cleve is officially back in the big leagues... :wink:

Born in Columbus Growing up: Youngstown (Boardman) Cleveland (Lakewood) College years: Ithaca, NY Cleveland (Lakewood) Columbus (North Campus, South Campus, Harrison West) The rest: Columbus (Victorian Village) Cleveland (Edgewater, Fairview Park)

From the "BRT Fact Sheet" at this link: BOSTON Silver Line ($1.43 billion) 9.6 miles 14 Stations 5-minute headway 17 sixty-foot articulated buses CLEVELAND HEALTHLINE ($168.4 million) 6.7 miles 21 sixty-foot articulated buses 5-minute headway $1.43 billion for a BRT line. The amount of money Boston is able to garner/spend on infrastructure has always amazed me considering they are only about twice the size of Cleveland - I think around 600,000 city, 4 million metro population.

Ouch!

Don't want to veer OT (per Pope) but often times the schools are made whole in some other way, some other taxes are kicked their way. This may have been the case with SYC -- or maybe they only took a portion of the increase and didn't touch the school system's slice. I believe the legislation for the TIF district usually addresses these details. TIFs are very popular these days as a mechanism for getting large scale projects off the ground. There is an inherent risk in that if the incremental tax revenues in the TIF district don't meet projections over the life of the bonds, for whatever reason, the city would be on the hook to pay off the bonds anyway from its general fund revenue.

I don't want to go too far off, but perhaps others have the same question as mine: What are the disadvantages to a TIF, and who wouldn't want it? Typically the school district has the most to lose with a TIF (from a purely monetary standpoint) and usually has to sign off on the agreement and/or be made whole in some other way.

Now if our government would just let one or both of these go under rather that bailing them out (absorbing $$$ pension plans, etc) then a healthier industry would remain. Of course I don't think either United or US Air have much left to dump...

Word on a Lakewood forum is that it will look like this: Who knows how accurate this is but I would not be the least bit surprised if it turns out this way -- let suburbanization in the name of redevelopment roll on!

An "advertorial"? There is a link to it on this page in what would seem to be the real estate news section: http://money.cnn.com/real_estate/ Best place to buy a home these days Apr 14: The 6 cities where home prices are likely to rise the most - or fall the least - in the next 12 months. This page below per Musky has the text "Ground zero for foreclosures seems to be benefiting from all those plans to help troubled borrowers. Prices have stabilized and look ready to rise." http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/real_estate/0804/gallery.best_buy_home.moneymag/index.html

Of course many many are in the city (not sure if it's more or not) but the Chicago suburbs are filled with both HQs and back office operations, at least for the kind of companies we work with.

No way those home depot clearance racks door can be the doors. Maybe they just stuck them in there to generate some buzz on this site until the real doors that are on order arrive :-D