ClevelandNative

Anyone familiar with the Art Model law and how Haslam plans to bypass that ? I believe the previous owner‘s attempt to move the Columbus Crew out of Columbus actually allowed the Haslams the opportunity to buy the club.

Yah I know they’re a city. But do they have the police, fire, ems, etc needed to responsibly hold events there ? I see potential for them giving it up with profit sharing in the deal

I just hope for city annexation of the land where the stadium and complex will sit

Care to elaborate ?

Yah, this is due to policy for pursuits. If the police, in Cleveland, attempted a traffic stop on a vehicle with one of these violations, all the suspect driver has to do is continue driving. The police, by policy, must turn the opposite direction and allow it to flee. Read the policy the Department of Justice implements in every city it goes to. Vehicle Pursuits are extremely limited

SHW definitely filled in the gap here

Crazy the difference of only 1 year

I wonder what the ‘24 estimate will be next year, with the continued trend of an increasing yearly amount of people entering, and decreasing yearly amount of people leaving. I’m guessing a net gain of a few hundred Hopefully by 2030 we’re equal to, if not more than 2020’s census!

@KJP What are your thoughts pertaining to this topic ?

Great point! Hopefully this continues and expands across even more neighborhoods.

From the stats and just visually being around the city, it appears as if healthy growth, in several neighborhoods, is there. But this is growth in more urban neighborhoods where it’s mostly townhomes and apartments. Which attracts the young single adult or newly married couple with no kids. When they have kids, for the most part, they move out of the city. What we’re missing, and badly need, is an influx of new single family homes in the 150k to 300k range in neighborhoods like Old Brooklyn and West Park. If anyone is familiar with the Mill Creek development that runs off of Turney Rd in Slavic Village or Scullin Dr in Kamm’s Corner. More of this type of housing is needed to allow the natural progression newly weds moving out of say Ohio City or Downtown to a less urban neighborhood in Cleveland instead of to the burbs. Thoughts ?

Photo/info Credits to @Geowizical. I believe the cuyahoga valley neighborhood should see a decent increase, in the near future, with the addition of all the new apartments in Scranton peninsula

Does anyone have any information on the most current City of Cleveland population trends (post 2020 census; which I believe to be inaccurate) ? Would be really interesting to see neighborhood by neighborhood level population trends. What are peoples’ opinions; are we still losing population or has it finally leveled off and dare I say increasing ?

Controlled by Haslam, sure. Sucking life from Downtown matters a little less when it would still be going into the City of Cleveland. Same tax revenue Plus this creates more space for lakefront development

They get the reward of a percentage of tax revenue without having to pay for outsourced logistics (which would be priced at a premium) ie money without the headache

When the Browns move to Brookpark adjacent to the Airport, Cleveland is just going to annex it. Brookpark knows they don’t have the means necessary to safely host potentially 10 Browns game a year nor any other special event that would occur inside the new state of the art dome. Brookpark knows they don’t have the logistics set by state law (for incident readiness of major events) lack the manpower in relation to Police, Fire, EMS, Traffic Controllers, Helicopter, Terrorist Threat Intelligence, etc. All of which is currently majority staffed by the city of Cleveland; and allows for these events to safely occur. Brookpark can have the IX center back or an agreed upon percentage of the profit margin. could be best case scenario, as Cleveland keeps the browns stadium but the Haslams pay for the whole thing.