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I think even this doesn't give enough credit to Ohioans. I rag on the tastes of suburbanites as much as anyone here, but they like plenty of things more interesting than Olive Garden, just as I'm sure plenty of people in the suburbs of Chicago/NYC/LA love Olive Garden. Cleveland has Mitchell's and Melt, Akron has Swenson's, Cincinnati has Graeter's, Columbus has Jeni's and Bibibop (and countless others), etc. Those aren't culturally unique or anything, but they're just as interesting as LA's obsession with In-N-Out or the east coast's obsession with Shake Shack.

Most of the time I've spent in the Cincinnati suburbs has been in Northern Kentucky, so I admittedly may have a skewed perspective.

I don't think it's that hard to find culture in Ohio. The suburbs are definitely going to have less of it, but there's plenty in the larger cities. I would say, however, that the suburbs of Cincinnati have a bit more of a "backwards" feel than those of Cleveland and Columbus. However, using a single anecdote from an experience in the suburbs of each city hardly makes a pattern.

Actually, over 6 million now, I believe. But yes, I agree, stupid things like this are hard to explain away to Cleveland critics and also work to the detriment of those of us who live here. Sometimes I wonder if the city's decision makers have ever been to any of the large, well-functioning cities on the east coast.

I think this further proves that what freefourur was getting at is correct (and also shows how the MSA boundaries for Cleveland and Akron are inaccurate). Many people likely live in the Akron MSA but work in the Cleveland MSA, which is probably a big factor in these numbers being so far positive for Cleveland yet negative for Akron. In reality, many of the people living in the Akron MSA and working in the Cleveland MSA live in one of the suburbs many of us consider to be Cleveland suburbs that happen to lie within Summit or Portage Counties.

That's one thing I don't get about Nashville. Its crime is just as bad or worse than Cleveland's. This is a metro area smaller than Cleveland (let alone the Cleveland-Akron-Canton CSA) and a city that had 170k people before the city county merger (and almost certainly still less people in the original city boundaries than Cleveland), and it had over 100 murders last year. Somehow, they have completely whitewashed their image in spite of this, though. The Wikipedia page on Nashville doesn't even contain the word "crime", whereas Cleveland's page has an entire section devoted to it.

Well, that's fine if that's what you wanted to measure, but I was referring simply to your conclusion. Specifically, I was simply saying that the data provided didn't in fact show that. Thanks for posting the 1950s boundary numbers. That is interesting and I think it does make a much stronger argument for your case.

I get that's it's difficult (but surely not impossible), but my point is that you shouldn't be so confident in drawing your "definitive conclusions" based on flawed methodology. No metric is going to be 100% accurate, but 1950s boundaries for each city would IMO be much more accurate. The vast majority of urban, walkable neighborhoods were built pre-WW2 in this country. Most of the newer urban development, even in a city like Columbus, is a rebuilding of these neighborhoods. This could change in the future, and there are certainly some limited exceptions to this rule, but it would IMO be a much more accurate metric than simply using the core city's boundaries. Again, I said that Columbus very well might be growing within the 1950s city boundaries, and that would be wonderful. I am interested if you have any statistics showing the scale of this growth.

I disagree. This was a neighborhood store that many residents could walk to. Now they will have to take a bus for a couple miles, then walk a couple blocks to get there. Also, the population density has to be much lower around this new location. It's nice that Midtown is getting a store, but it's too bad that it had to be at the expense of an existing one.

It was mentioned in another thread, but Jack Flaps Luncheonette is currently closed. According to their Facebook page, they are reopening, though.

I checked out your link. Your conclusion is completely invalid. I know we've discussed this ad nauseum, but you can't equate "core city" with "urban". Columbus has many decidedly suburban areas within the core city. Many cities do not. I'm not saying there aren't good things going on in Columbus or that maybe it is growing in its urban areas, but you need to dig a little deeper to prove that (like maybe compare 1950s city limits for each city).

I assume he's looking at Total Non-farm Employment, which does in fact give you 2.5% from Oct 17 to Oct 18 if you do the calculation manually.

The link provided does show the YOY numbers for the last 6 months. Each month Cleveland has been higher than Cincinnati or Columbus, most of the months being significantly higher. The unemployment rate for Cleveland is still higher, though, so there's work to be done.

I'm not saying he hasn't accomplished anything. I'm saying that he hasn't accomplished anything even close to his "big talk" projects because, while great, The Beacon is nothing like Pesht or Nucleus, so I'm skeptical that this will come to fruition.

I agree that this is a really bad idea. The "less ads" and "control over content" (as well as the ability to post) should be enough to encourage most people to sign up. For those that don't, why drive them away?

I would be thrilled with that as well. I just don't think Stark will do anything here. The only thing he has accomplished downtown after 14+ years of getting our hopes up is The Beacon, and for that he entered into a partnership with someone who got the parking garage/foundation for that building at deep discount.

Pesht II

I've been wondering the same thing, mainly with Brassica. I don't believe Brassica is open yet, as their website still says coming soon and recently on Facebook they posted that they were still hiring. Then again, on the VAD website, it doesn't say when they are opening, which for other stores like Mitchell's seems to indicate they are already open. Also, does anybody know where Nature's Oasis will be located? Is it going where Fresh Market was going to be located? Or is it going to be west of Warrensville Center with everything else?

Truth. https://www.google.com/maps/@41.4922239,-81.6579122,3a,75y,222.41h,89.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sUYymi25zgJ5PD8SBjgkuJg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I like how the Google Street View vehicle flipped the bird to that Road Closed sign at the start of Elmwood Place.

If you want to see some old Western Reserve stuff, I suggest starting in Chagrin Falls and heading up Chagrin River Rd. There are old farms and buildings all along the way, but especially around Wilson Mills and Gates Mills. You could then head up through downtown Willoughby and hop on SR 2 east to 44 to Jackson St. to see Rider's Inn as @eastvillagedon recommended.

Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, hardly anyone gets it correct. I think this is why "The 5th Street Arcades" was a good brand name. The "Euclid Arcade" was probably always the most confusing because a lot of people assumed it referred to "The Arcade", being the most well known and fronting Euclid Avenue.

@YABO713 What do you mean by that? Are you referring to the name 5th Street Arcades, or what the original names of the arcades were?

The Arcade is the big one which the Hyatt is in between Euclid and Prospect. The 5th Street Arcades is the "brand name" for the combination of two parallel arcades between Euclid and Prospect, the Euclid Arcade and the Colonial Arcade. The Euclid Arcade is the one closer to East 4th St. EDIT: I see StrapHanger beat me to it.

If you like Kernels by Chrissie better (I also have never had them, but I'd like to try it now), then this may not be a good thing. Campbell's has better name recognition and could possibly put Kernels by Chrissie out of business if downtown can't support two sweet popcorn shops.