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I believe the city passed legislation a couple of years ago requiring contractors to maintain a safe pedestrian passage during construction.

Did the crane jump this morning? Looks like it may have but I couldn't get a photo.

Sometimes it's very interesting when the layers are peeled away. The Abbey Market building did not appear to be nearly as old as the foundation stones here look. It must have been expanded around an older structure and given a new facade. This foundation looks like it's from the mid 1800's.

Any idea what the old cement pylons are from? Thanks for the photos!

An article regarding the Room Service boutique/cafe at 5222 Lorain Ave.: "Doran and husband/partner Andrew Worm have announced exciting new plans to return to the near-west side. The couple has taken possession of 5222 Lorain Avenue, the former home to Guide to Kulchur, which they will develop over the next year or so into three components. The first space to be unveiled will be The Judith, a French-inspired café." Room Service Announces Return to the Near-West Side with New Cafe, Retail Store and Community Gathering Space | Food News | Cleveland | Cleveland Scene (clevescene.com)

I like the height but agree the design can use refining. This is such a prominent, featured site and the design should be great. Also, what is the "ticket booth" for? As an aside, a portion of this site was occupied by the Campbell Building built in 1892. It was originally intended to be a hotel but became apartments instead. The Campbell Block - Gone, but still remembered in the Old Angle | Cleveland Historical

If a strip of the parking lot closest to West 25th (between Franklin and W. 25th St Lofts) could be separated off and offered for development that would be a great starting point. That would minimize the loss of parking and would allow development fronting W. 25th along this stretch to take advantage of the amazing views. It would be ideal for the Kan Zaman property to be a part of this. This would help establish some continuity with the W. 25th Street Lofts and Snavely buildings to the north.

The specification defines scale... not my opinion.

This is an exciting and transformative project. I do wish the narrowing of West 25th to match the market district area were part of the project. This would also allow additional space for storefront buildings to be built between Riverview and the street. Perhaps the curb cuts for Riverview could be moved to the side (off of Bridge). These changes would result in a more pedestrian friendly experience along this stretch.

The proposal does not meet the criteria of the guidelines which state the following: As with new additions, the massing, size, scale, and architectural features of new construction on the site of a historic building must be compatible with those of the historic building. When visible and in close proximity to historic buildings, the new construction must be subordinate to these buildings. New construction should also be distinct from the old and must not attempt to replicate historic buildings elsewhere on site and to avoid creating a false sense of historic development. The limitations on the size, scale, and design of new construction may be less critical the farther it is located from historic buildings. This criteria is concerned with the structures that are visibly surrounding the new structure and not a block or two away. Here are the surroundings adjacent to the site in question: The proposed building is substantially out of scale with these surroundings. The referenced West Side Community house, built in 1922, is out of scale with its surrounding older Victorian structures and, in part, resulted in zoning being implemented in 1929. Such an out of scale development has not occurred in the 90 years of zoning and the 47 years of the Historic District (1974) and this project would certainly set a new precedent. Along these lines, I would like to ask the following... Considering this project violates zoning and historic specifications where is the line drawn regarding what is acceptable to build? Can one build a five or six story residential/commercial building on any empty lot on a residential street in the neighborhood? Perhaps this thread is not the proper place to discuss. I enjoy the increasing density, the new buildings and businesses of the neighborhood. I also believe Ohio City has done such a good job of accommodating new development with respect to the existing historic and urban fabric.

I agree. I'm pro-development and am thrilled about most of the development happening in Ohio City. However, this project is way out of scale being located in the middle of a row of two story victorian houses. Also, the commercial buildings in this vicinity (i.e. the apartment building across the street, Johnny Mango, Momocho, the office building at 32nd and Bridge, the building with Le Petit, the commercial building next to St. Pats) are all two stories. This is located in the middle of the Historic District and those guidelines state that new construction shall be of scale and setbacks consistent with the surrounding structures. This building clearly does not do that. I'm not opposed to an apartment building being constructed at this site but the scale needs to be addressed.

My Place Group, who was developing Pins Mechanical, was also planning the apartment building at the Hot Dog Inn location (NW corner of West 41 and Lorain). I noticed a For Rent sign on the storefront and wondered if that project was being delayed also.

A new downtown shopping mall? Cleveland Muni Lot draws interest from outlet-mall developer Horizon, a small but established outlet owner and developer based in Illinois, is in talks with retailers about a two-level mall that could rise at the edge of downtown, on the eastern end of the massive Lakefront Municipal Parking Lot. https://www.cleveland.com/business/2020/02/a-new-downtown-shopping-mall-cleveland-muni-lot-draws-interest-from-outlet-mall-developer.html

Yes, the building the Hot Dog Inn is located in will be demolished for the new building.

The spaces that will be available for public access as well as how it incorporates many organizations from the surrounding area are very cool. It seems like it will add much more to the neighborhood than additional residential units. Thanks for the article!