unusualfire

Alot of people don't understand another huge benefit from it. Federal wages would go higher and we would get more Federal money for things like transportation which is BADLY needed.

WTF this program is going down fast. 2 starters suspended indefinatly. White and Mohammad.

Has anyone caught all the land that being torn up around the I-71-75 split? A ton of development is going on down there.

^I think it's needs another 150-200k in the middle to connect fully though.

I think i made a thread last year about a commuter bus line non stop between Downtown Cincinnati and Downtown Dayton. That would give you an idea of what kinda ridership you might have on a commuter rail line. Of course the price has to be right for people to get out their cars. i think it will once gas is back over $3 an gallon.

Why don't Delta just give up. This is insane.

wow i thought most of thier jobs were safe, except for the ones that would be replaced by some of the workers at the Batavia plant who has seniority.

^ No need to get bent out of shape. This is the internet. Everyone has opinions.

I have been reading these crazy comments lately on how big their CSA's has gotten. Indy 2.1 million, Charlotte 2.1 million for example.. Folks these are not METRO area's. Why do some people continue to think their metro's are that big? These aren't one cohesive metro area's but they continue to talk about it that they are one metro.

This is the 2000 UA area. That are urban clusters of 1000 people per square mile.

If they don't meet the 25% threshold, maybe not, but the UA is the key now. If it's connected totally you don't need the 25% threshold. It needs a little work but it should happen.

Personally i don't think you know what you're talking about. I have been around these forums for years. Heck you yourself don't even know what the central counties are. As far is why it hasn't the census added them. Maybe they missed it.They are known to make mistakes. The core counties is where the UA is located. Clinton,Oh, Ohio, In, Gallatin,Ky, Franklin,In can't be central core counties because the UA does not enter them at all. Certainly the rest are which combined have the 25% threshold. Anyway expect these to be included in the MSA officially by 2010.

It used to be 15% be happy..;)

It's not resident. it's workers. If it had 1000 residents. That's about 400-600 workers. Out of them workers 25% or 100-150 would have to travel to another county to combine. There is other criteria too but i'm too tired to look it up.

I never said that it was the only criteria? It is an automatic one though.

lol 67 people commuted to Adams County from Pike County. 126 commuted from Pike county to Highland county. So no it wouldn't combine if that what you are thinking.

^It's flawed..lol Trust me I'm right. Commuting happens in metro and micropolitan area's. Not from rural counties to the next rural county. Wow did any of you even look at that commuting page by the census?

Pigboy They do not have to work in Hamilton county. As along as 25% of the workforce work inside the Cincinnati MSA. Then they will be part of the MSA. The UA is over 1.7 million now. let me ask you something. Grant County is in cincinnati's MSA right? Wanna bet 25% does not work in Hamilton County, but through out the rest entire region?

Oh ok I'm making up stuff, i think not. It's all there for all to find. http://www.economy.com/home/redef/OMBMetroDefinitions.pdf If specified criteria are met, adjacent Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas, in various combinations, may become the components of a new set of complementary areas called Combined Statistical Areas. For instance, a Combined Statistical Area may comprise two or more Metropolitan Statistical Areas, a Metropolitan Statistical Area and a Micropolitan Statistical Area, two or more Micropolitan Statistical Areas, or multiple Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas that have social and economic ties as measured by commuting, but at lower levels than are found among counties within Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas. The geographic components of Combined New England City and Town Areas are individual metropolitan and micropolitan NECTAs, in various combinations. The areas that combine retain their own designations as Metropolitan or Micropolitan Statistical Areas (or 2 NECTAs) within the larger Combined Statistical Area (or Combined NECTA). Combinations for adjacent areas with an employment interchange of 25 or more are automatic. Combinations for adjacent areas with an employment interchange of at least 15 but less than 25 are based on local opinion as expressed through the Congressional delegations.

how does one think St Louis got all it's counties in it's CSA and Atlanta too.

Same criteria except it was already a micropolitan area. The counties i listed are not a micopolitan area that's why they are part of the MSA. http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/fedreg/metroareas122700.pdf Section 3. Outlying Counties A county qualifies as an outlying county of a CBSA if it meets the following commuting requirements: (a) at least 25 percent of the employed residents of the county work in the central county or counties of the CBSA; or (b) at least 25 percent of the employment in the county is accounted for by workers who reside in the central county or counties of the CBSA.

Nah it's anywhere in the MSA. I checked Clinton County, 25% of the workforce don't goto Hamilton County.

I'll do the smallest one Switzerland county. Switzerland county has a population of 9,718 In 2001 the the workforce was 2,289 So you need 25% of 2,289 worker to travel to the Cincinnati MSA to be counted as being in the MSA itself. Below is how many workers are commuting to the Cincinnati MSA per county. Dearborn, In 422 Franklin, In 22 Ohio, In 393 Boone, Ky 171 Campbell, Ky 5 Gallatin, Ky 193 Kenton, Ky 35 Butler, Oh 45 Clinton, Oh 4 Hamilton, Oh 288 Warren, Ky 23 Total 1601 That's over 50% of their workforce traveling to the Cincinnati MSA for work.

They were the only ones to meet the threshold. I checked KY but no others were even close. The dayton MSa would take sometime, because i would have to add up all the numbers from each Dayton MSA county to every single county in the Cincy MSA. I did look at Warren county commutes to Montgomery county only and that was a little over 11k. I'll do a run down on how i did one of the counties later on.

Wow..poor Dayton