PigBoy

Great series. Thanks for the giant cow shots... it puts our giant cows in Wisconsin to shame! By the way, what's with the painted intersections in NW Ohio towns?

Archbold seems to have brand-spanking-new brick streets. Either that or no one has driven on them for the last hundred years.

Nice shots. That's indeed a good CH.

Good timing! The other day I drove through a number of these NW Ohio towns just for the sake of driving through them, and now I get to see some new pictures! Yay!* * "Yay" does not apply to Defiance County Courthouse

4th Street is the best in downtown Cincy! Except, as everyone's already stated, that parking garage.

The Great 2006 UrbanOhio Chicago Meet! Left to right: metrocity, Magyar, PigBoy (It was out of focus and I sharpened the hell out of it in Photoshop... so this is the "good" version.) P.S.: We are sorry to have missed punch, who was called out of town to other duties. :-(

Or if you ever read the SSP Midwest forum...

Great tour! The older little buildings tucked away here and there are one of the most interesting things in downtown Cincy. By the way, what is Allen Singer's new book?

I chose my home county (Greene) even though I don't really live there now.

I always get a kick out of the singing cereal box characters. Not all the other animatronic things, just the cereral box characters. I don't know why.

Thanks for the tour, and welcome aboard!

Nice pictures, and happy b-day, Ohio! So, did you manage to bribe anyone? :wink: :wink:

^ Springfield (Clark County) is its own metro now. Ohio's micropolitan areas: Ashland Ashtabula Athens Bellefontaine Bucyrus Cambridge Celina Chillicothe Coshocton Defiance East Liverpool-Salem Findlay Fremont Greenville Marion Mt. Vernon New Philadelphia-Dover Norwalk Point Pleasant (WV-OH) Portsmouth Sidney Tiffin Urbana Van Wert Wapakoneta Washington CH Wilmington Wooster Zanesville

once again i'll defer to piggy, but if an area is torn between two metros, the city that has the larger draw wins the county/area. So in your scenario: more people commute from NYC to NYC than people commute from NYC to DC; thus NYC is considered in NYC's metro, not DCs And I in turn defer to this PDF: http://www.census.gov/population/www/estimates/00-32997.pdf. (I didn't actually read most of it because there are all these words!) The DC and Boston to New York scenario should be explained by the definition I already gave, though- 25% of a county's workforce has to commute to the central county to be included in the MSA. I'd bet huge fortunes that nowhere near a quarter of Boston's or DC's workforce commutes to NYC. Anyway, getting a little off-topic... again.

Hooray for new cameras in the hands of MayDay!

It works, BaconBite. Yeah, but only because Rich (i.e. not you) fixed it.

More depressing news. Downtown faces more closings By Jim Dillon Dayton Daily News DAYTON | — The winds of change continued to blow through downtown Dayton on Tuesday, two weeks after MeadWestvaco Corp. announced it will move 500 jobs out of downtown by summer's end. • The owners of home furnishings retailer Go Home and eclectic boutique Ashley & Hilary said they will close their stores in the Cannery building downtown to focus on their other stores in Centerville. The Cannery's owner said she hopes to fill the vacancies created by the stores' departures. • Citilites, the restaurant in the Schuster Performing Arts Center, will switch formats starting Saturday, a move that will leave the Racquet Club as the last fine-dining restaurant downtown. • Members of the Dayton Woman's Club said the club will close by the end of May unless its fortunes and membership show significant improvement. The club has existed 90 years. • Bill Rain, a local redeveloper of downtown buildings, has dissolved his company and moved to Tampa, Fla., to work for DeBartelo Development. He said he has no idea what will happen to his last project, the Schwind building on South Ludlow Street. http://www.daytondailynews.com/business/content/business/daily/0301downtown.html --------------------------------------- Developer leaves city, building behind Dayton claims Bill Rain owes $179,000 on loan for Schwind By Stephanie Irwin Dayton Daily News DAYTON | No man is an island, but one downtown restaurant operator caught in the stalled redevelopment of the former Schwind building feels like one. Tom Xarhoulacos, who owns the 37-year-old Moraine Embassy at 25 S. Ludlow St. with his two brothers, wants answers about the future of the building that houses their restaurant now that the building's owner has left Dayton. Bill Rain, a local real estate developer, bought the building from the city of Dayton in 2004 to develop it into market-rate apartments. But he has liquidated Rain and Associates and taken a job with shopping center developer DeBartolo Development in Tampa, Fla. Read More... --------------------------------------- Cannery losing tenants; slow business blamed Go Home, Ashley & Hilary to focus on other locations By Shannon Joyce Nealand Ann Heller Dayton Daily News DAYTON | Go Home, the downtown-area home furnishings store in the Cannery, will close its store at Wayne Avenue and Third Street this month to focus on its Centerville location, the owner said Tuesday. Audrey Buckman, the store's owner, said sales and foot traffic at the downtown store have declined in the past two years, while business at her new Centerville store is going strong. "People shop where they live," Buckman said. "It's nothing against downtown, because (downtown) has been nothing but a success for me." Read More... --------------------------------------- Money shortage may spell end for Woman's Club 90-year-old club may close doors at end of May By Benjamin Kline Dayton Daily News DAYTON | Members of the Dayton Woman's Club met Tuesday to hash out the future of the 90-year-old organization. The taste was not sweet. "We need more money. I'm not ashamed to say it," club president Barbara Markham said. "Unless something miraculous happens, we will close our doors at the end of May." Founded in 1916, the Woman's Club attracted white-gloved ladies who would shop at Rike's, then walk over to the old Darst mansion, 225 N. Ludlow St., for their lunch. Read More...

Yeah, the guy's actually on a beach in Mexico. I'm your nerd. MSAs work like this. There is a central county or counties (I won't bother looking up how that's defined because it's obvious enough which counties those are). Other counties are then included in the MSA if a) at least 25% of their resident workforce works in the central county, or b) at least 25% of the employment in the county is made up of workers residing in the central county. Then there are the Combined Statistical Areas, which are combinations of Metropolitan and Micropolitan Statistical Areas based on some standard or other. Anyway, those numbers given are the CSA things which IMO aren't great for measuring population. 2004 MSA estimates are: Cleveland 2,137,073 (Akron 702,078) Columbus 1,693,906

ColDay, when I click the "donate" link, nothing happens. No way I'm donating to a POS site that can't even have properly-functioning links! :-D (You'd just blow it on Lee's fried chicken anyway.)

NOLady, maybe you and my sister should entertain one another. She's a twentysomething enjoying some deliberate unemployed time after finishing her master's degree. She lives in southern Riverside. She's posted all of twice to this forum, but I'll bet I could bait her to post in here by bringing up the unemployment. At the moment, she will destroy anyone who pesters her to get a job. :shoot:

It's February already??? :-o

That's it, now I'm deliberately going to get in your way when I come to Chicago next week! Just tell me the time and place you'll be walking through a door so I can stand in front of it while taking a picture. :-D

Sounds like someone needs to ship you some Skyline chili, tcjoe. :-)

I looked it up and the longest focal length on that camera is equivalent to 420mm. I don't speak this "zoom" language very well either. (Except that I know my camera is 10x, so I can think of approximate comparisons.)

^ I'm thinking not that there needs to be some special options for suburbanites or that you want to literally shut them out; it's just an unwelcoming attitude I'm perceiving. Even so, I think it's important that places do cater to more than just the neighborhood, although certainly not to the exclusion of the neighborhood. Say, for instance, a famous 5-star restaurant. Should we be upset that it's downtown when most of its customers come from outside the immediate neighborhood? Same goes for cultural attractions like museums. The implication I'm getting from some posts is that we should not encourage things like that because we shouldn't want to attract outsiders. Again, though, I place extreme importance on the distinction between downtown and any other neighborhood. Downtown is a shared neighborhood and you can't reasonably expect it to be "yours" in the same way that you could with other neighborhoods.