PigBoy

^ My understanding is that Kentucky was basically a part of Virginia before statehood, and the orginial charter for Virginia went across the entire river rather than to the middle of it. Thus, Kentucky and West Vriginia today own most of the river. The border is established as the 1793 low water mark on the northern side, so Ohio includes some portion of the river at normal levels. What I often wonder is where exactly the border is within the river. Unfortunately Kentucky and West Virginia were Union states; otherwise maybe we could have stolen the river after the war! :wink:

I'm not terribly familiar with all the colleges and universities in the Cleveland area, but I think for a city that size to be a "college town" (in the way some would characterize Boston) it needs to have several major universities in the central area.

This is the funniest thing I have heard this week! I was kind of hoping the "fire block" would involve some kind of actual fire. Of course, a more innovative city like Cleveland would combine the two ideas and just light the rapids on fire. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I think I remember seeing these suggestions (unless these are brand new, in which case it's déjà vu or something). I like the museum idea... not necessarily a children's museum, but some kind of museum in which the public might be interested, if you could somehow accomodate it in an arcade.

While the population is perhaps higher now, from the 2000 census I came up with a total of 4,623 within the blue area on the map. I didn't do the surrounding orange area because the census site and/or my internet connection was painfully slow. If I find some time with GIS software, it'll be much easier.

^ I don't necessarily mean the airheads... just ordinary people who grow up thinking Ohio is dull because of things like its environment or geography (never seeing what Ohio does have to offer) and then act on those opinions by leaving before learning that perhaps there are other things to consider in making a home.

I think these are the main group, and I'm not how to please them. There is a girl with whom I work in my dumb campus job whose parents have moved to some Denver suburb from the Cleveland area (Brecksville, I think), where she has grown up. After she graduates in a couple weeks she'll move out there with her parents. She talks about how she's ready to finally leave Ohio and never look back. Other than a bit warmer weather and a view mountains out her window, how is life going to be any different or better in suburban Denver than suburban Cleveland? I think a lot of people are not outgrowing the fantasy of being able to sit on the beach all day or whatever else if they lived somewhere "nicer." Maybe they find life to be just as crappy when they actually move to these places, but by then the damage is done; Ohio still "sucks" and they're not going to move back just because where they are not sucks just as much. There was an article posted here about Ohio cities during the election season. It proved that people in Dayton will give you pie if you visit them! :-)

What's with the two entries on that site that say people mispronounce Ohio? Please don't tell me I'm supposed to say "O-hi-uh"! I will die before doing that. And this one: "The only state in the country with it's own, distinctive smell." Have they not heard of New Jersey? (But seriously, I like NJ!) I like how we gained an extra 1.5 million people for that first entry, though.

^ I want a shirt like that!

Reading through this, I noticed the suggestion of using the census data for populations at a given radius. I can probably do that tomorrow or later this week, if we don't mind numbers that are 5 years old at this point. (I actually sort of did it for Cincinnati once, but at something like a 100 mile radius, which includes just a bit more than downtown.:wink:)

I'm with ya, if there's anything I could do. My only suggestion is to get those UrbanOhio.com bumper stickers out there in places where people will see them. (I will heading off to Wisconsin this summer, so my part will be reduced to telling everyone that Ohio does not suck. Don't worry, I hope to come back after two years!) Anyway, this: sounds like a cool idea. If you could gather up interested OSU students and come up with a way of paying for it, some trips to tour cities or whatever else would be great given OSU's central location in the state. And it would not only be good for the Ohioans; you could also hope to get some students from out of state to spread the word back home. You, sir, should be the official state photographer. Many of your photo posts at SSP seem to elicit a "gee, maybe Ohio doesn't suck after all" response from one or two people.

Today's DDN has an article about a pair architects in Dayton, and it features the house that has been pictured here. This will confirm that it is not part of any larger projcet. It says some nice things about the house, but I still think it looks like crap thanks in large part to that siding. I guess the inside is nicer. I've bolded the parts about this house, but there are a couple other interesting things mentioned in the article, too. Architects celebrate 10 years of bringing their unique design vision to the Miami Valley By Benjamin Kline Dayton Daily News The old real estate spiel about the importance of "location-location-location" still applies to many deals, but it's being challenged by two Dayton architects who turn risky locations into dazzling building sites. Rogero Buckman Architects, headed by Mary Rogero, 51, and Barry Buckman, 41, is marking 10 years in practice. They've been so busy, Rogero said, they haven't nailed down a specific time to celebrate. On virtually empty Emmet Street, east of North Main near the north shore of RiverScape Park, they are finishing up a remarkable, pristine, 2,000 square-foot house with big windows for James Orsini and Margaretta Rivera. At 110 Frank St. in the Fairgrounds neighborhood, they won an American Institute of Architects Honor Award last year for the compact Peter and Jane Bracher house. In the Oregon District, they are transforming the smoke-stained Southern Belle tavern into a modernist, 6,000-square-foot mansion with a rooftop terrace. And in Springfield, Rogero Buckman is one of three Ohio firms chosen for an "innovation initiative" with Chicago architect Stanley Tigerman in the redevelopment of the Greenmont Avenue neighborhood near the Frank Lloyd Wright-designed Westcott House. Buckman, from Doylestown, Pa., near Philadelphia, and Rogero, from EauGellie, Fla., met when both were working for Woolpert Co., of Dayton. She is single. His wife, Audrey, operates a high-design furniture and accessories store downtown, Go Home. http://www.daytondailynews.com

Certainly this is true... isn't Columbus a big distribution center for a lot of stuff? Even so, I-73 would not be a highway on the order of 70, 80, 90, or 75, each of which provides direct or indirect access to many different regions and markets. This one is only going to go to one region that is not already accessible by the major interstates. It's furthermore not going to facilitate access to most of Ohio (from what I can tell, very little for SW Ohio and not at all for NE Ohio). I don't doubt that having this road in Ohio would be useful or beneficial in some way; it just doesn't sound like the benefits would quite be enough to justify making such a big undertaking a priority in the near future. (I'm talking here only about connecting to the Carolinas; Toledo to Columbus is a different story.)

^ I feel like being cynical, so I will respond to that as follows: Governors don't have to listen to people, save during election time. It's like Bush's "accountability moment" (the 2004 election). Otherwise, on an unrelated note, I just want to say that the last line in that article is the most explicit mention of a confidence interval/margin of error I've ever seen in such a short article about a poll.

Guessing is hard... I can recognize most or all of the Dayton ones, as well as the more obvious ones of other cities, but they are too scattered about for me to attempt going down the whole list. I will say that I recognize #49 as Delaware. Go Delaware!

The thing I notice from this rendering that I didn't realize from the other is that the crown is sort of open rather than solid... I haven't decided whether that's better, worse, or neutral, though.

That's great! I'd been wondering what was going on there. The Arts Festival sounds interesting... I wish I could come, but I am graduating from OWU on the previous weekend and then promptly going to Arizona for a week!

Boo! This is unrelated, but I wonder if any of you are economist-types who could explain the idea behind the strategy of Walgreens, which from what I've noticed seems to be to build new stores as close as possible to major competitors, in particular CVS (I don't know if CVS does that too, since around here their stores are usually already in place). What's the benefit to that?

Ohio? Never heard of it.

So are you a cop yet?

I've been noting the new traffic lights on 23, too. There are 2 or 3 that I'm certain are new since my arrival in Delaware for school in 2001, but there are probably more that I haven't paid close enough attention to. What's more interesting to me is to predict the spots where new lights will go in the future. There are several I'm quite certain of.

Is there any way to find information on how much through traffic there is on US 23 in Delaware County? (That is, going to or from points farther north such as Toledo.) In my experience most of 23 itself is not too bad; the worst is just the 3 mile stretch from the interchange with 270 and 315 (the worst single spot) to Polaris Parkway/Powell Road. And that, of course, is only with rush hour traffic. I don't drive it every day or anything, but on occasion when I have driven it at the busiest times it hasn't seemed truly awful, apart from the aforementioned interchange with 270.

Just a guess, but this seems like something that would benefit the Carolinas a lot more than it would Ohio. Something from Toledo to Columbus might be nice, but the rest of it in Ohio doesn't sound like it would be good for much.

^ The whole base closed down? That hasn't ever been likely, has it?

Interesting. My family and I used to enjoy going there to see the cheap second-run movies; it was very disappointing when it closed. :cry: