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Recently, a similar discussion thread was initiated by a woman in her 20s who was moving into Cleveland. She chose Tremont, but there are a lot of similarly good suggestions made by other UO forumers: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,22112.0.html There was another recent thread initiated by another young woman who was moving here from DC and who was inquiring specifically about Downtown: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,22039.0/all.html If you decide to look at Tremont and need some specific questions answered, feel free to PM me. Good luck!

Beachwood City Council gets glimpse of Eaton plans BEACHWOOD, Ohio -- Representatives of Eaton Corp. and the Richard E. Jacobs Group showed several images of the manufacturer's planned corporate headquarters during a City Council meeting Monday night. Eaton will ask Beachwood's planning and zoning commission on March 25 to consider a variance for 1,292 parking spaces for the project, a 53-acre corporate campus on the Chagrin Highlands property. The project will include a 10-story tower, flanked by two four- or five-story wings connected by a glass atrium. More at http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/03/beachwood_city_council_gets_gl.html

I for one would not mind having this thread locked down for a few days, or giving the two folks some time to rest.

Does it matter for the purposes of this admittedly circular argument that neither Cargill nor Great Lakes Towing uses the West Shoreway except for access to the W. 28th and W. 25th ramps, all of which will be improved because of the West Shoreway project?

Good luck with the event. While I'm partial to Great Lakes, I've been really impressed with Ithaca Brewing Company, and I understand they now have a Cincinnati distributor (you can get them in the Cleveland area at Rozi's). Some of their stuff is touch an go (like the Cold Front, their Belgian dark ale which is fairly meh), but their hoppier offerings are really excellent, especially the Flower Power IPA.

I think that the design is prettily sinuous, but it does not connect well to Euclid. And the end that faces the street still looks like the back of an open hospital gown.

You're showing your age, TB. The Oilers haven't played a home game in Houston since last millennium. So, apparently Positively Cleveland is mounting a campaign to refute the Forbes claims. I rather wish that they didn't inasmuch as it gives credence and attention to that sad rag.

^That sounds about right, given the burst of office development over the last several years and the collapse of Washington Mutual. Fact remains that since a few years after the construction of Society (now Key) Tower, the CBD market has remained fairly stable. The move of Grubb & Ellis and Tucker Ellis to Flats East Bank will certainly hurt the Huntington Building, but if the owner has any sense, that building will move towards quickly toward residential mixed use, as so many Class B and C buildings inexorably have. Taking this building off of the market will further "help" the office market; the concern will be whether adding more residential hurts places like the Avenue District. To bring things back to topic, Cleveland CBD office space won't be growing anytime soon, but that's good from a vacancy perspective. And, given the last few years, lenders are valuing stability to a greater extent. Yay us.

I went to Bẳc last night around 9. While they are not yet open for lunch, the kitchen will usually remain open until at least midnight every night of week except Sundays (closed all day). It was very impressive, especially for only the fourth day being open. The menu is more extensive than I thought it was going to be based on my conversation with Bẳc himself early last year, and all of the menu items are very reasonably priced. The decor is very comfortable; upon entering, there is a well-stocked bar with high-tops, and around the corner is the main dining room. Bẳc's intention was for the bar area to be competitive with other drinking establishments throughout Tremont and Ohio City, and I think he hit that mark. I could easily see myself there to watch a Cavs game with a Dortmunder in one hand and a spring roll in the other. I had the aforementioned spring rolls, and I can second Organic Mechanic's review. They were outstanding. I wish that the nước chấm (fish sauce-based dipping sauce) was spicier, but you can always add more heat. I also had the bánh xèo (Vietnamese crepes with shrimp and pork). This was also splendid with the right amount of crispiness. It's listed as an appetizer (for $7, I think), but it could easily stand on its own as an entree, albeit one that you should have with another appetizer. Between the two appetizers (which together made an entire meal) and two Dorts on tap, my pre-tip bill was $21. Go there. You won't be sorry at all. I'm planning on being there to watch Cavs games for my beer and banh mi fix.

^Certainly. From the perspective of property managers, buildings that are mothballed are effectively considered "invisible" to the market.

For 4Q 2009, Grubb & Ellis reported that Downtown (CBD) had 11.3% vacancy for Class A, and 26.6% for all of Class B, with what looks like 21.1% for A, B, and C. You can download their quarterly reports here: http://grubb-ellis.com/Research/Reports.aspx

Pot calling the kettle black? Anyway, let us pay no attention to any rankings from Forbes or Men's Health, for they are merely designed to get the attention of the afflicted or elevated cities mentioned.

First, anything that comes from Men's Health magazine is crap designed to sell their lousy periodical based on trolling for gullible newspaper reporters. That said, that "study" isn't really measuring consumption; it's supposedly measuring the negative effects of drinking. To wit: Places like Colorado Springs may have a higher ranking, but that's because the midwest is populated by Professional Drinkers.

I actually lived at 716 College for a couple of months in winter of last year while my apartment on 7th was getting renovated. I assume that you are taking the full apartment on the top floor, not the small studio on the ground floor. It's a nice place, indeed. I never really had issues with parking and was usually able to get a spot on the street around the corner on W. 7th if I couldn't park on College. My only concern would be with noise coming from the patio of the Treehouse. Since it was winter, folks weren't outside. I imagine that things might be a bit different in the spring to autumn, though. The Fairfield place is a nice location. You won't have parking issues except for an extended weekend when the Orthodox Church across the street hosts the Greek Festival. Another friend of mine lived there for a while, and didn't have any complaints. It's a younger crowd in there. You'll also have Loop down the block, which is my new favorite hang for a post-work coffee and tunes. Feel free to shoot me a message if you have any Tremont questions.

<i>Isn't that the reason the Shaker Green Line can never be extended, because there's a park at the end of it?</i> It's not that the Green Line can never be extended, it's that the density doesn't exist to warrant said extension. Also, The City of Beachwood owns the property at the end of the Green Line, and has no incentive to sell it to an entity (RTA) that isn't willing to purchase it. The Flats East Bank beach is expensive downtown property owned by a private entity that has every incentive to build on it rather than keep it undeveloped.

Edison's in Tremont is also pet friendly.

Initially, I liked "Frame It" (Option 1) best: it would effectively create a common room for Cleveland by making Public Square significantly more intimate. Additionally, from a social perspective, it would bring together folks who are mainly there to wait (transit riders) with folks who are moving through the square. But, "Thread It" (Option 3) is really growing on me. Even if both Ontario and Superior remained open, you would add at least one more acre of pedestrian space to the four acres that currently exist. Furthermore, for people who are walking diagonally through the square (say from Terminal Tower to Key Tower or the Warehouse District to Euclid), it effectively eliminates walking across no fewer than twelve lanes of traffic. As far as accommodating events on the square, it would be far superior for one main reason: you would be above all of the street signs that currently litter Public Square (as well as the bus shelters). Obviously, the planting of trees would need to be done in such a way that allows for reasonable viewing of a stage in front of Terminal Tower, but the cruciform arrangement of the mound could make that work. With regard to the transit waiting environments, I think that they would be much improved. Having waited for buses in the cold of winter, having some shelter in the form of the hills would be much appreciated. The area of the street-level sidewalks and berms also appears large enough so that there isn't the unwelcome "tunnel effect". Finally, views in general would be significantly better, and I can't imagine how anybody wouldn't want to climb to the top. Looking northwest, you would have an unimpeded view of the County Courthouse (which you can only see head-on while crossing Ontario). To the north, there is the view of the Fredericks fountain framed by the Metzenbaum Courthouse and Key Tower, and to the east, you would have an unimpeded view down Euclid while gazing down on the lower levels of the Soldiers and Sailors Monument. Presently, while exiting Terminal Tower, you have a view of a whole lot of streetsigns and traffic, with some buildings above it. With the mound, you would have a view of people and greenery, with some buildings above it. (As far as closing all cross streets are concerned, I can't countenance it, especially the closing of Superior. It's not that I love cars, but one would either have to widen the perimeter streets (thus isolating the square from all sides) or one would have to shunt traffic to St. Clair, which is a poor proposition.) (A wide bridge that meets ADA guidelines would have to start so deep into each quadrant that you might as well have a pleasant hill to cross instead.)

Jesus, can we cut off this back and forth "you give me proof!", "no, YOU give me proof" crap before we spend another dozen comments on the Tweedledee and Tweedledum show?

Urban Meyer left an undefeated Utah team to go to Florida, but after Utah won the Fiesta Bowl. Nick Saban left 9-2 Michigan State before their bowl game to join LSU. I don't know of any coach that meets your specific scenario, but it is not unusual to have a successful coach leave a program right before a bowl game. It will be interesting to see if UC had the resources or inclination to match or exceed ND's offer. Given that there is no contest as to which team draws more television and live viewers or merchandising dollars (I can find ND apparel anywhere in the US, whereas it is difficult to even find a UC cap in Cleveland), UC cannot, at this time, match ND in cash or cache. The fact remains, however, that under the existing BCS System, it takes years (if not decades) for teams to establish themselves in the eyes of pollsters as a prestige program in order to get a high enough ranking to hit the top two. Until there is a playoff system, teams such as UC, TCU, and Boise State have to accept that their programs are pit-stops to larger, more established programs. And, it's really in the best interest for UC in this unfair environment to graciously let go of Kelly in order to attract the next Kelly (albeit only for the next few years).

How the Port Authority wasted precious time and money on ill-conceived plans by Michael D. Roberts http://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/sunk/Content?oid=1746860 Long piece on the events that led to the departure of Adam Wasserman, including board politics, Dike 14, and the pursuit of the container shipping business.

Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority won't commit to paying its share of a new dike, delays move By James F. McCarty,The Plain Dealer November 18, 2009, 11:38AM The planned move of the Port Authority to East 55th Street was pushed back by at least two years today -- and maybe longer. CLEVELAND, Ohio — The Cleveland-Cuyahoga County Port Authority board today said it will need help from other government agencies -- and possibly from taxpayers -- to pay for a new $326 million lakefront dike for disposing of muck dredged from Cleveland Harbor. More at: http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/11/cleveland-cuyahoga_county_port_2.html Really, words utterly, utterly fail me.

I have friends who live on Queenston, Kingston, and Princeton, and they have all been very happy with the neighborhood. The neighbors tend to look out for one another, and there is a good mix of retirees, families, and young couples. Also, they have this charming impromptu 4th of July parade (complete with a neighborhood band, dozens of kids on bikes, and a herd of dogs) that has run on an annual basis since WWII.

You asked about rivals, you got an answer. Said rivals are competing with Greyhound for the more lucrative inter-city routes.

Yes, rivals like Megabus, the various Chinatown buses that connect NYC to most major cities along the East Coast and in the Midwest, and a slew of private carriers that also hit the major cities.

No, as I would guess: Who would own, operate, thats a huge investment with a little ROI or functionality The cost to maintain would be, extremely high The property lots you need to build that would be skyhigh Patronage, would be very low. No connection to the transportation network At the risk of contradicting you, I think that operating a gondola across the river might be less expensive, especially if you could suspend it from the Main Avenue Bridge or alongside the Norfolk Southern "iron curtain" bridge. Picture something akin to the Newport Transporter Bridge but instead of constructing new towers or transporting vehicles, you were just moving pedestrians and bicyclists and you remained at the level of the riverbanks. It could be tied to the Towpath Trail and future Lakefront Trails. The tender of the iron curtain bridge could also tend the pedestrian gondola.