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The 'spread the losses" thing does not consider thing like Intel so I agree that it might not be a best practice. *I wonder how much the Covid-19 deaths played into this...with death rates higher and all? I do feel dread though when I think about the state as a whole though. I just hope at this point that the state can hold it's own(I was hoping we would get lucky and be able to hit the 12 million mark in 2030 but I doubt that now. Our urban area added about 200,000 2010 to 2020 and with Intel/etc. I don't see how we don't at least match that by 2030.

The bank building is great, has great materials and is great on the inside as well as the outside. If these other buildings had particularly nice interiors or something special about them that would make a difference. But if they are totally "meh" on the inside then I don't see why we should not just save the facades and get more density/height that way? If these were not on High I would be more open to just preserving them, or maybe if they had more of a visual impact or made more of a "statement" to me like the Madison stuff further up High. I do think that the facades deserve to be saved, and I think what they did on Vine was good and that they could do that here. I just don't get the push to save the entire building if it is just a few floors and meh inside. I do think that there should be a height requirement demanded along with saving the facades(and enough-like 20-30 feet)that it makes a difference). If it is just going to be another Nicholas then I understand that and would favor no demolition. What we would get would not really be worth it. I hope they don't get to just knock these down or sit on them and let them rot. Anybody caring about this is a small minority voice but we need to make that voice louder to developers, the city, commissions, etc. I am not familiar with any groups in the city who might be allies but I am sure some on here know of some. JMHO

I disagree here. People would push for an alternative location for the skyscraper. I love skyscrapers and I would be at the barricades with pitchfork(I actually have one)and torch ready. Losing that building is not worth a skyscraper to and I am sure I am not the only one who holds that belief. There are way too few of these buildings that are this nice leftover and way too many surface lots to allow something like this to happen. Who? I believe one person mentioned a "plaque" but that was also in the context of also suggesting keeping the facades, as in setbacks like the hotel on Vine. The facades are what matters to the streetscape. We can keep the historical street level look and greatly increase density as well-a win-win. The great majority seem to be on the same page on this. Save the facades, build up. Do you think anything more than the facades should be saved? Should they just be remodeled as is with no height increase or density? I don't think most people want that, nor do most want full on demolition. We should absolutely come together on this and push and put pressure on the city and the developers to do what they did with the hotel on Vine. Use it as an example of how it can work. And also remind the city of it needing to actual stick to the city plans(you know, the ones that have minimum heights for High and that keep getting ignored.) *looking at you sad lowered /should have been 11 floors thing between that alley and the large blank wall of the one LS building. * * The Nicholas as you well know is another example of the failure to follow the plans. .

Ok sorry if my post came off as rude-it was not meant to be that way. I was having problems also and had to restart my laptop. I think this issue is really a non-issue or a really minor one at that. Some of those renderings posted are a little depressing because they show the church at the bottom of the renderings that is no longer there. ugh. I was looking at pics/reading about our flood of 1913 a few days ago and it survived and sheltered hundreds of people-flooded houses were all around it. Such is progress I guess.

LOL. I live in a place where I never open the blinds and have over 20 houseplants that are thriving, including succulents and a cactus. It is picking the right spot for the right plant. Those are fairly large windows also. Hours of direct sunlight in the late afternoon early evening. I really don't think it is that big of a deal actually. People who want more light will look elsewhere. People who don't mind how it is will be the ones living there. Again, there is enough variation in what people want/need that it should be fine. We need more immigrants!-from Transylvania! lol.

???? And? I guess I don't know what you are trying to get across without actually leaving an actual message. They look fine I guess, could look better with windows on the side(even clerestory windows)but who knows why they are not there-maybe there is a good reason? This is a miniscule thing to be discussing anyway in the grand scheme of things IMO-it ain't that important-just one little detail to note that's all. No big deal really. Well different strokes for different folks. I am sure they will not sit vacant at least. I guess I am an oddball as too much sunlight is a no-no for me. Maybe I am part vampire? lol. I don't know.

They don't look very deep to me so whatever they are the important rooms will have natural light(living/dining areas and bedrooms) so IMO they should be good. But the thing about no south windows is true.

I agree. save the facades and push it all back 20 feet. And if anyone even thinks about a demo for that bank building they should get the death penalty.

Jman! you forgot Charlotte! It is the Austin/Charlotte/Nashville trio that blows Cbus out of the water. lol /s This looks better, except make it much bigger and put the tallest one downtown. And look at that tree cover! Somebody post some pics of all the construction going on at OSU-our other CBD.

Hmmm...Ok Jman what did you do to/with ColDayMan???? /s I don't actually like the look of that Austinburb. I would like to get the density but in a better way than that.

I do think we have reached a certain point where we can have some 'demands' when it comes to downtown development. If they can't make it work, maybe someone else can. There should be an independent study and if they can at least keep the facade only without Ungodly costs they should be required to do it. There is a reason they are eying this warehouse district- because of the existing warehouse buildings. With the growth continuing, we can at this point just. say. no. JMHO. And we need that surface lot "tax" and standards in place so they can't just throw anything up if needed. We have 20 years of downtown plans with guidelines that are not enforced about heights and density-we need(the city officials)to start referencing their own plans. If they only would bring in more outside developers and get rid of the old boy developer network. I really hope something can be worked out and these buildings can be saved and maybe have additional height added. Once you knock down older buildings, especially of this size, you just can't get the "feel" they bring back.

How did I miss these? What great shots. My gawd!-just thinking back to what this all looked like circa 1985! The mind reels.

How did I miss this (#4)? They really need to fill in the areas that they can up to the protected creek areas. I bet some people around there will not like apts, but too bad lol. And I am glad they are boxing in Columbia Heights Church-I have personal reasons to dislike that church. I hope it gets on their nerves.

The stairs look great. I like that there is a space or well-maybe 2.5 feet wide?-between them where something(art, plants, another display case, etc.)can go, and the window really brightens it up. The light colors with black accents works well here(sometimes it just does not work). And yeah a home office is a must now. I agree with the toe steps-the wood will stand out more and add something to the black and white scheme especially if that is a focal point. They sound/look really nice. Now if only I was wealthy lol. Build thousands of them so rent prices stabilize at least

Thanks. I normally do not like white kitchens but this looks ok. Is there a pantry? And is there a decent sized dining space aside from the counter seating? With 3.5 baths is every bedroom ensuite or is there a bath for the media room(unless it is located near the half bath?) and the two smaller bedrooms share a bath? With a width of 16 feet I am assuming this is a 3 story structure? The non-glass railings would be best IMO. The staircase looks very nice and bright-they can be so gloomy.

The square footage on the newer ones, and the huge floor space, must make it more difficult. Some of the older ones are smaller(less than 20,000 square feet) and may have a narrower side like a rectangle that helps in getting apartments in. Massive 200 by 180 foot building dimensions can be tough to deal with.

This looks nice. I have that exact same knife block! lol. I love the views-but where is the cornfield?/s There are going to be railings for the stairs, right? I like the use of the space beneath the lower staircase. What is the dining area like? I like that sofa and chairs. What is the square footage roughly on these? Room dimensions? I am so curious even though I would have to hit a lottery to live somewhere like this. It is nicely done!

I hope you are right.

This tower is looking so darn good when coming down 315. I am loving it. The buildings and cranes are really popping along that stretch and it is a sight for sore eyes I will tell you. TGFOSU!

I would like to see more affordable housing and a return of "starter homes" that are smaller than what is being built now. Families are different now-with fewer children and sometimes no children at all-and many of these smaller families would still like to live in a SFH. 1,200 square feet and 1.5 baths for a family of five is different than the 1,200 square foot place needed for a couple with one child, a couple with no children, or even a single adult. The big families are just not coming back in any significant way(unless you have multi-generational housing/maybe certain immigrant or cultural groups). Working families and just anyone who does not need to live in the hottest neighborhood could all benefit from a return to smaller homes. They can be built on smaller lots too-people do not use or need big yard like they used to. Kids are not out playing in their own or in neighborhood back yards like they used to(before cable TV, the internet, gaming, etc.) You can fit two smaller 1,200 square foot homes on the same size lot as a 2,400 square foot home, and maybe even make the same profit. A 65 or 70 foot wide SFH lot could be cut in half and there would still be room for two smaller homes. We really need a return and normalization of smaller "starter" or "workforce" type SFH housing.

Arshot is the bane of construction in Central Ohio. They are poison IMO.

I don't think that offering housing incentives for lower income unit construction would really drive everything out of the city. If they can still make money in the city for higher end units and the demand is there, they will do it. It seems they tend to only want to build "luxury" units anyway(understandable from their point-I get it. And some people will end up homeless with even an increase from 600 to 800 a month with everything going up in price. That is what will happen. Increasing homelessness among not only the non-working poor but the working poor as well. Wages have not kept up with inflation. I may be one of these homeless people. Investors and corporations buying up all of the housing stock does not really help either. We have a serious housing problem in the US. I read somewhere that we need at least 6.5 million more units now and that is about demand and not even about affordability, We are still seeing the side effects of the Great Recession on the housing market even 15 years later. I guess I really don't know what the answer is I just know that a number of people I know and myself included are on the edge and cannot take anymore rent increases. We will end up living in our cars. It is that bad. The resources for help are just not there or they are overwhelmed. I know there are very few if any low income people who post on this board, but I have become one of them.

We need policies in place to make it easier. I know the logistics economically are kinda not really great right now, but we need to do what it takes to make it happen or we will just have more dysfunction and displacement of lower income people and that is not a good thing for society overall. To me it is not simple, but it is imperative that we address this problem. It is right up there with the drug, mental health, and crime epidemics we are experiencing.

I wish they would just really ramp up housing unit construction. I know it is increasing but we are dealing with the same if not great need and have a running deficit from what was not built and was needed in the last ten years or so. Lower income people are being priced out of existence.

That would seal the deal for me if I was a youngin' lol. Those bedrooms remind me of my own- just enough room for a queen size bed and not much more(at least I have two bedroom closets and built in dressers lol.) This a good thing as I am sure there is a market for it. *and utilities included!