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If it looks anything like that pic it will be great. That pool area looks like a great place to just hang out-it looks like it would not be in Columbus if you know what I mean. We need more things like it. The changes in Franklinton in the nearly 20 years since the floodwall are great and really picking up steam and I am all for it.

Regarding the first part...how dare you! So screw the city and let's all praise unrestricted SUBURBAN SPRAWL on an urban forum! SMH! lol. PROTECT THE DARBY CREEKS WATERSHED! Welcome to Darby Creek National Scenic River Estates and Apartment Homes! Gentle Wildflower Patch Condos and Pristine Wetlands Shopping Center are coming soon! The second part...yeah I know. :(

Jacksonville does not need anything but it's skyline-which is World famous and is much better than the skyline of Toronto. See Skyscraperpage for more info. Otherwise it depends...if a city already has some negative perceptions pro sports don't really help, and can even hurt if the team is at times completely winless and abysmal(won't mention any names here)-it just becomes something more to rag on the city about. Best to have a Good perception and Worst to have a bad perception when it comes to cities. Not much of an impression or perception at all is in between the two IMO. There are much more important things people consider when it comes to where they want to live or move to.

well TIL... lol. I will admit I think the lake is a better thing to have than a large river(you don't have to build a bridge(s) across it)and the islands and Cedar Point are nice too(too bad Cleveland is not closer to them, and too bad we do not have an interstate, light rail, etc. directly from Cbus to say Sandusky(dammit!). Plus Sandusky does not have the lake effect snow right? Too bad Sandusky did not become a bigger city. I wonder how much the turnpike still being a turnpike and not just a regular interstate has to do with the city and it's ability to grow? I wonder what the numbers with the boats are? I mean given that NEO has what?-4 million people. What percentage of households would have a boat of some kind? Plus a meteor or asteroid of good size landing in the lake would cause a huge tsunami! lol. There is always a good side and a bad side lol. Didn't Cleveland have some kind of tsunami or freak seiche way back when that killed some people? *and why is spellcheck telling me that "seiche" is not spelled right or is not a word????? *hmpf! Isn't Cincy involved in bridge stuff now and considering a new very costly bridge or something like that? I am not really that impressed with the Ohio River given how it is such a transport artery and kinda like a series of ponds with the locks and dams-except that ponds don't flood anything like the Ohio River-and that hurts the riverfronts of anything along it. JMHO of course. Cincy is scenic with it's forested hills and all.

If we did they would probably be lined with ugly dead industry and prone to severe flooding while lined with huge massive dikes, damned with locks for transport, etc. The Ohio River is not exactly scenic IMO. Just imagine the old *damned Scioto downtown just three times as wide with higher walls but just as muddy, dirty, trashy. We likely lucked out. Our smaller rivers and streams are much more "people sized" and good for fishing, canoeing, etc. -stuff that does not cost a fortune. How many people here could afford a large boat for a large body of water? Look at Cleveland. Now much do they really use the lake, and how many people out of the 4 million or so in NEO have a boat or are actually on or in Lake Erie? Same for the Ohio River and Cincinnati. At least we don't have to worry about our metro being lopsided due to a huge body of water, or cut in two by a large river(look at the issues with needing huge bridges and the billions of dollars needed for constructing them?)...again, silver linings. *I guess I meant "dammed" but "damned" is also appropriate.

Also mountains? F*** those! We have hills close by enough and only psychos like hiking up damn mountains IMO! I mean WTF! lol. Also can you imagine Central Ohio drivers on icy snowy streets that are also hilly and steep? Yikes!

I LOVE her!!! I hope she is very successful!!!!

We also don't have mudslides, avalanches, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, tsunamis, lake effect snow, etc. There is always a silver lining. Things like this are one of the reasons we landed Intel. There are plenty of outdoor and scenic places here that can be enjoyed, we just need to acknowledge what we have and build on it(and add more cultural institutions as well as making the best of our natural and outdoor scenic areas. ) *I live just a few hundred yards from one of the Darby Creeks, there are metro parks very close by, a herd of bison, prairie, woods, the creek, trails, etc.-and this is out in a cheap hellish part(lol)of Madison County! **Also, cornfields are underrated! lol I think that there can be a sort of intrinsic beauty in farm fields, orchards, dairy farms, horse and llama farms, etc(all close by)-This is productive land that is producing something, food or whatever, for people to use. I especially like the orchards and the changes in the cornfields-how narrow country roads can go from so open in the winter to being lined with walls of green corn in the summer. And this comes from someone who is on here an urban forum and loves the tall buildings and density and all.

Household size alone could explain the drop in Chicago. It still has 75% of the population it had in 1950 within about the same size in area and mostly being built out in 1950. Also cities were a bit unnaturally crowded still in 1950 due to less new housing built in the thirties Depression era and the war using up so much human resources as well as materials through much of the forties. Many cities were actually unnaturally overcrowded with every housing unit packed and all and any hotels packed full as rooming houses-some loss was needed in already built out cities-Not 50 percent loss, but at least a little. From what I have heard from people who lived through that time, cities were very overcrowded.

Just a damn mess.

I have to look at some of these reports like the one about most urban counties losing in 2021 with a huge grain of salt. They mentioned that nothing like this has happened in the last 50 years-well yeah, we had a pandemic of the scale not seen in 100 years. We will have to see what happens next-I really think that predictions at this point with everything that has happened in the last 2 years are somewhat futile.

That would be the Cavs moving here it it were to be an NBA team...and don't even think it. Cleveland would hate us even more, with the white hot intensity of ten million suns lol. That would drive that "Western Reserve State" thing to the forefront lol.

I can't access the article. Does it state exactly where this will be built? *edit nevermind I see in the Dispatch it is the camp in Galloway.

Every time I see a new post in this thread there is always that little hopeful thought that maybe a 60 story building has been announced(for that Southeast section). This little hope is completely irrational but yet it is always there lol.

How did I miss this? Gawd this is awful! Looks like it belongs in the the Balkans in the 70's or something. LOL

Share the Arena...yes! I mean you miss 100 percent of the shots you do not take. The city can at least try. It is worth mentioning. It is not likely, but it is not impossible either.

So I saw in the Cincinnati thread that the New Orleans team might be relocating. Too bad we do not have a go-getter like Coleman to try 2012 all over again, but with another weapon to be used-the coming boom with Intel! *We are booming/Intel coming/great site already existing and getting renovated/good rivalry potential with hated Cleveland/etc. etc. We just need a leader here instead of a head administrator(current mayor). Without one we have no chance at all. Too bad. We don't have the legacy stuff that older cities have and should fight tooth and nail for every. single. large-scale cultural amenity that we even have the remotest chance of getting. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

They really need to get that park that was planned across Grant(?) from CCC done-that area needs a park-and connect it. There is plenty of space for parking with residential on top along Long I believe south of the college. 3-4 floors of residential on top of 2-3 floors of parking and a bit of retail would give enough parking for students and residents both. Also a great place for some significant affordable housing. That whole area is just being wasted. Our community leaders, business community, developers, etc. need to be more involved, invested and dynamic. We need some more Coleman types to step up. That whole corner of downtown could be a vibrant dense urban neighborhood centering around those colleges-someone make it happen!

I would think they would really work to get this happening especially with events around the world lately showing just how vulnerable our supply chains are. Ohio despite it's flaws is secure and mostly disaster proof and is not exactly in a bad place when it comes to Climate Change. Bring the investment on!

The only thing much better than filling in empty spots is preserving and refurbishing lovely old buildings just like this one.

Wonderful news! The 2 three story apt. buildings look good also. Filling in one empty lot/parking lot at a time-we love to see it! The park space looks nice also.

I sure hope that last section that will be left at River and Rich becomes that 12 story tower.

"The Residences at Grandview Yards South" or some such nonsense. Or maybe GYSO for GrandView Yards South lol.

^^ the parts of the garage not facing the tracks look much better than what I was expecting. Overall great pics and progress here.

It really was great and it should be used as a standard of what developers should aspire to when they build these infill projects.