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Sooo much better!!!! I wonder what the height will be....and I also wonder if this will impact the chances of Harmony Tower happening? *Now we just need someone to "stick in" the new Hilton Tower in this new rendering! lol Compared to the previous design, this one is sharp!

Well to be fair if you check the Sherwin-Williams HQ tower thread, it started in 2007(not four years old, but 14 years old)with a first post talking about a possible 60-70 story tower, so it could be worse-just putting it in perspective and all. (this is not an attack on that project-more like a "good things come to those that wait" take) *keeping fingers crossed for the "transformational" tax credit. And I LOVE the new project design and upgrade in size!

I drove by this yesterday and the area sure is changing for the better-construction all over the place there-and it was good to see. I had not been there in a while and felt like a tourist or something...gawking at everything lol. The White Castle development was looking really good too. So different from what it used to be. People were even using the big bikeway ramp next to the freeway-and people as in more than one group.

Yeah from that view looking northwest over the site, the garage just dominates. So there are only going to be 40 residential units in all of this? Did I read that right over at CU? I am glad for the restoration and all but a bit let down that this is really not going to be the real multi-use area it could be. Oh well.

Huh. How much and where is it at? Maybe they got more constructed in the latter part of the decade than I realized. I have an old booklet that was put out by the city in late 1948/early 1949 and they do show houses being built(they look like the Cape Cod/Levittown types)but I assumed there were not too many of them built because of the transition back from a war economy and all. I knew the 50's was very different of course. Was it more infill in already established areas, new greenfield tracts within the city limits, in new land annexed to the city???

That is great news. And that sounds like a density of around 6,400 per square mile?-still off the 9,000 plus of 70 years ago but moving in the right direction. I am pretty sure that 1950 number was a bit inflated because of the lack of home construction with the depression and the war and all...along with adding 85,000 people from 1930 to 1950. I don't think the annexation had really kicked in before 1950 and I would expect they did not have much room or much time to add too much in the way of many of the tract Cape Cod houses they were building in the late 40's. My parents always complained about how crowded* the city(and downtown)was in the few years after the war. Apparently downtown there was hardly a room to be had and every hotel was packed. *and dirty/in a state of disrepair. I guess the lack of money and then materials from 1930-1945 left the city looking a bit in need of "sprucing up".

Remember how Abbott responded to that one guy's proposal for the new soccer stadium in that empty land they own? They shot that down quick. I guess the best thing is to focus on developing the core area south of Naghten. Given the Kroger proposal and all, they do seem kind of crabby. * I never knew there was an "official" warehouse district either. Back in the day it was the "gay/lesbian bar district" later in the evenings/early morning hours. I think there were 4 or 5 in there at one time back in the 80's. I think there might be one left.

The people interviewed in the article were pretty upbeat about the number of residents continuing to rise. Also they said there were 1300 units already under construction(not counted proposed)so that would bring the number to about 12,000. This was actually a nice little article from the Dispatch. And Damn, I remember the Dispatch of the 70's and 80's so it is a lot for me to give them any credit even now. :) Thanks for posting it.

Oh ok I thought maybe you had some new info.

Well it is probably good that growth may be squeezed a bit in northern Delaware County-maybe they will build more "relatively" dense stuff in the southern part? I don't see them putting in anything past Alton Rd. really or anything west of Hellbranch run south of that...do you have any specifics? They have started that development of around 400 units(mostly apartments)just west of the Galloway Kroger, but the other subdivision west of the Summerlyn subdivision has had no action at all. I have my doubts that any kind of "town center" will be developed at the 40/Murnan Rd. intersection like I think they planned at one time. Grove City seems to be moving south and even southeast. West Jeff has approved that nearly 1,000 unit housing complex south of 40 and east of 142, put in the infrastructure(extended the sewer/water lines under the 40 bridge) for it and annexed the land, but who knows if that will come about. It seems like the pressure to develop is more north of 70-better school districts, etc.

At least none of the counties immediately bordering Franklin lost population which is nice and yes they held their own collectively. Delaware's growth is impressive as usual. Now maybe with these numbers they will start to build some more freakin' housing?

I really don't know anything about high schools now but just curious...did they get a pool? I am sure they have a top notch facility-it is Upper Arlington. I am impressed with how they are adding density around Lane Avenue, what they are doing with Kingsdale, etc. And they are back over 35,000 in population as well.

With Ohio going from 11,536,504 to 11,799,448, and Franklin County growing from 1,163,414 to 1,323.807...Franklin County accounted for about 60% of Ohio's population growth. And Columbus accounted for around 74% of Franklin County's growth. I have noticed in various articles and on various sites that the really impressive growth of Columbus is just not mentioned or discussed much. Even with this, we continue to fly under the radar it appears.

I read this and noticed that in this article or a similar one(they had more than one)they listed Cbus population growth at 180,000 and then right after noted that Franklin County grew by 160,000. Sloppy. And yes the same tropes including that Cbus annexed "burghs" or something like that. Cbus annexed undeveloped areas and I would love for that site to list which villages, already developed areas, etc. that Cbus annexed. Cbus did not swallow suburbs. The land got annexed before it was developed as the developers knew they needed Cbus water(at least back in the day). Cbus has had a hard time annexing already developed areas-it failed in several attempts to annex Blacklick Estates and Lincoln Village among other areas. There is a reason that the annexed areas in much of Franklin County are a patchwork. The only good thing was the lack of comments since that site got rid of them. Also they talk about Cbus as "sprawl" while not noting how the city is now at 4131 per square mile in density, while Cleveland has dropped to about 4,793-not that huge of a difference. Also I don't believe you can add any three other cities over 100,000 in Ohio and achieve a combined density that is higher than Cbus. Cincy/Cleveland/ Toledo: 952,812/236.06 square miles/4036 per square mile Cincy/Cleveland/Akron: 872,410/217.1 square miles/4018 per square mile. Columbus: 905,748/219.22 square miles/4131 per square mile. Dayton is less dense than any of the other five. It is sad that they reach for the same'ole same'ole talking points that are increasingly not true. And this is not a knock on the other Ohio cities, this is just sort of setting the record straight-per what comes out of Cleveland.com.

Welcome to the board! I am glad you posted and I agree that Newark has so much potential. I think this next decade is going to be huge for Newark.

Remember when we discussed Lincoln Village and vacant housing units? It added nearly 700 residents and exactly 13 housing units. 185 vacant units are no longer vacant, however. Also West Jefferson lost population as it added only 28 housing units in ten years and filled in only about 35 or so vacant ones Why don't they build some damn housing-why do the residents fight it so much? The traffic streaming towards Columbus from the warehouses there is lined up for half a mile heading into the downtown area every damn. day. around 5 or 6. These people here...smh...an embarrassment to the rest of the metro area. *look how it sprawls along 40 and 70 on the map...the biggest red patch in Franklin and all adjacent counties. https://data.dispatch.com/census/total-population/total-population-change/west-jefferson-village-ohio/160-3983580/

It looks even more "tower in the park" than Thurber Village. The Nationwide condo tower complex looks much more dense and 'city like' than those.

If the numbers are not the same, then I withdraw my "demand justice" comment. I am sure with all of the developments planned the city will be continuing to add residents, and as mentioned the city will far surpass the 50,000 number. The city is still the number 2 city population wise in Central Ohio(ahead of Dublin).

Yeah now that it is official, I was wondering just where the heck they managed to put 118,000 extra people in Cbus. Remember how we were discussing Lincoln Village? LOL WCMH website has a story on how Lincoln Village is "one of the hottest real estate markets in the nation!" Apparently homes sell in about 5 days and the census designated 'burb is in serious threat of... gentrification. Umm....yeah okay lol. Welcome to the board! I will check out that link-thanks for that! There is never 'too much time on your hands' when it comes to crunching population data for Cbus on this part of the forum!

Cleveland should. You just know the black population was undercounted with the pandemic and all... What is the threshold population for losing wards?

Damn neither of them made it. Newark should demand a recount/sue. That number being the same as before is too fishy. Demand justice!

actually they corrected this: Top 11-20 Austin - 961,855 Jacksonville - 949,611 Fort Worth - 918,915 Columbus - 905,748 Indianapolis - 887,642 Charlotte - 874,579 San Francisco - 873,965 Seattle - 737,015 Denver - 715,522 DC - 689,545 Read more: https://www.city-data.com/forum/general-u-s/3265287-2020-census-results-53.html Of those behind us, I think only Charlotte very well might pass us in the next 5-10 years and we should at least maintain our lead over Indy unless something drastic happens. None of the rest are close enough to catch us so I think we will remain in the top 15 for some time. San Francisco is hindered by it's innumerable Nimby's also. I think we moved up from 15th in 2010 to 14th in 2020? We passed Indy and San Francisco but we were only passed by Fort Worth if I am correct.

From Citydataforums: Columbus keeps it's 14 ranking! Top 11-20 Austin - 978,908 Jacksonville - 911,507 Fort Worth - 909,585 Columbus - 905,748 Charlotte - 885,708 San Francisco - 881,549 Indianapolis - 876,384 Seattle - 753,675 Denver - 727,211 DC - 689,545 Read more: https://www.city-data.com/forum/general-u-s/3265287-2020-census-results-53.html

It's not a big deal. I was joking of course. As I said, it ain't that serious.

Do we know where we rank? Do we know Charlotte, Jacksonville, Indy, Fort Worth, SF? We can figure it out from that- I don't think any other city was very close.