Toddguy

Well it is unfortunate that they feel like they are not welcome here but are welcome in the Mid-Atlantic states. I understand it though, as I have all of the West Virginia jokes for decades. I have seen the disdain for unskilled or semi-skilled working class people migrating to Cbus in posts on this board.

I wonder if the numbers of them migrating has fallen as well. I am not so sure that many would be bothered by lack of rail, especially given how many are supposedly going to Nashville, Raleigh, etc. -not exactly hotspots for good mass transit systems. Probably the same thing it has always been-jobs. I wonder given the area we are talking about, the bulk number of people migrating and why they are migrating, if that many would really give two s$$ts about rail. I wonder how many of them would even care about a forum like this? How many are looking for warehouse/distribution/service jobs vs how many are college graduates looking for urban amenities?..etc?

https://www.aaronrenn.com/2019/11/21/midwest-success-stories-2/ Down just a bit? Just some noise? Not according to Aaron Renn...Cbus and all other non-sunbelt cities(even the ones that are "success stories")have TERRIBLE negative out of stage migration patterns. And this needs to be a focal point in a discussion about Midwest success stories-take 3 of those successes(Minneapolis, Indy, Cbus) and compare them to sunbelt boom cities(Austin, Nashville, Raleigh)in order to keep with his agenda of perils ahead! *eyeroll*. Columbus was singled out of all them, naturally. Why not just title the thing "Midwest Migration Perils!" He is sooo predictable lol.

I don't see why anyone would really want to live out here unless it was up by the Plain City area. *Hamco sounds like some kind of brand of potted meat lol.

Those are Plain City in the northeast of the county, West Jefferson in the eastern part, and London(south of 70)Lake Choctaw(north of 70)in the western part of the county.

^^ Shouldn't that be in the Ohio migration thread? Anyways since it is here what is the flow between Franklin Ohio and Hamilton? Also why are y'all moving into Madison County! lol. Why are we # 16-there ain't s$#t here-extended uncool crescent! *how many damn more posts until I can escape "Rhodes Tower" hell and move up to "Great American Tower" relative peace?

Is there any separation in that chain where the population density falls below 1,000 per square mile per census tract though? And yeah...it is well...messy I guess.

I get this. I cannot really "get" this last part I will admit. My mind is too tired today. It seems to suggest that the US Census Bureau kept Cleveland and Akron separate, and that Demographia has combined them, but the Cleveland CSA does include Akron-so that does not make sense. It is a mess really. If there is census tract connection between Dayton and Cincinnati that is contiguous and over 1,000 persons per square mile then it should be combined for urban area imo. http://www.demographia.com/db-worldua.pdf

Is there anyway that the city or region could use any kind of eminent domain to compel shared usage or at least part of a right of way(as in adding an additional track/using the corridor for an elevated line?)

Funny I was looking for that just a while ago. I think it is adjacent contiguous areas with an urban area that have population densities of at least 1,000 people per square mile. But what is used to determine that? Census tracts? Who knows? I think that they give estimates that seem pretty decent though. Not entirely sure why they would combine Akron/Canton with Cleveland/Lorain and not do the same for the "CinDay" region. Is Cin/Day still not contiguous enough? If anyone had the data it would be YOU lol. ?

^^ I think the future of mass transit, for better or worse, in Central Ohio is BRT/upgrading our bus service. A good start would be having it free and paid for by taxpayers-just subsidize it and everyone will win-easier on poorer people(who most often use it), better off for drivers(getting more cars off the roads, etc). JMHO.

I have seen things online and heard things in person regarding males driving a Prius for some time now- Metrosexual, wimps, gay, etc. Me. already took out the last row of seast-may have to take out more and just leave the driver and front passenger seat-just in case I end up having to live in the damn thing.

And this is why I think it will be extremely difficult to get rail in Central Ohio-the railways will not cooperate. If it cannot be confined to existing railroad right of ways and neighboring areas, there will be huge neighborhood opposition to any other transit corridors-including highways. Maybe some limited light rail on some major arteries or a short streetcar line or two but beyond that the NIMBYS will kill anything else given the lack of railway right of way. There are still way too many people in Central Ohio who want to go back to the way the city was in 1985-and keep it there.

On the list I noted, they must since there is not a separate listing for Canton and they include on their list for the US any urban area over 100,000.

Now if you really want to open a can of worms, try this list: http://www.demographia.com/db-worldua.pdf They have combined Cleveland with Akron but did not combine Cincinnati with Dayton so Cleveland is about 1.1 million higher. Cleveland is higher than Denver on this one!

They were doing great...until the 28-3 curse. While the curse tried to wreak it's havoc, Cleveland succeeded in overcoming it and in the end prevailed, defeating both a crappy team and the dreaded 28-3 curse. Two wins instead of one. It is a much better spin I think.

Good point...seriously in that who says that the 30 story building will have to have a flat roof?

They should a gone for the two points after the 4th TD. Now the dreaded 28-3 lead! lol

Yeah I forgot about keeping the denser stuff off the former landfill. I remember it being discussed before either here or at CU.

^^ lol I got it out of my system and am making myself busy until the pre-game stuff comes on.

Well hopefully you get a great outstanding design and some other buildings to fill in and with good street interaction and maybe some mixed uses? The most important thing is that the HQ stays IN OHIO and does not go to a sunbelt city, and that it is located in an important area of your downtown. Those things are the most important and apparently are looking good! 400 feet with a good design with some somewhat smaller buildings around it could still really "fill in" the skyline, and (JMHO)you already have a really great tallest tower already-everything should go towards supporting that(when it comes to skyline views)and filling in the gaps/making connections. Your two tallest are classics and you really dodged a bullet with that 1.200 foot thing(again JMHO).

^^ Just stirring the pot until the games come on! lol. *There really does need to be a "just being an #sshole" emoji*

I never said trashing Cbus...I said bitching about Cbus...and was referring mainly to this: But yeah, mainly I was just stirring some s#$t just to get something going until the games come on as I am bored this am lol. I admit it.

Football is football-go bitch in the Browns thread about any coverage given to the Browns then. Yes PRO football is SOOO much more "grown up" than College ball. *watches Browns "Bottlegate" video* And yeah I know I am going to be slaughtered in this thread and the Browns thread. Oh well. lol

Since some of y'all had to go into the Buckeyes thread and bitch...I hope The Browns get their butts kicked today. ? And I hope Odell does not catch a single pass and finally goes into complete meltdown mode. * I know of course this post will make the Browns win in a blow out, so spare me! ?