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Well the Northbank Tower has 20 floors and only about 80 or 85 units right? If they went a little slimmer they could get 65 units up to that height. Just sayin' and all as I realize we will probably get the brick box. But who knows? *As brick boxes go, I will say that Nationwide does know how to build good ones.

Go for it and make it highrise-Grenfell Tower 2! Why should Europe/Asia/Middle East get all the good highrise fires, right? That last plot of land will get an 8 story brick box. Still better than a dead pen, and good enough for Columbus, right? /sarcasm

Yeah...the lower 12 floors which would have blocked views could mostly face out onto the commons there(east) and then above that great views all around. But is NRI too conservative for this? We shall see. I still expect a brick box on that spot to match the majority of the Arena District(would be happy to be wrong though). *Or hell, to invest the money into building up some of the surface lots/one story buildings still to the west in the "Arena West" area(between Neil and the tracks)?

I agree with this exactly. Maintain the facade for the symmetry to the building fronting on Broad, and yeah, parking is the big "if". Could they go underground here for it? Is there anything under this related to the ramp that comes down to it from Civic Center Drive? If not that could server an underground parking garage right? Such a good location-a slim residential tower would be so good here.

^^ So glad they at least kept the facades on this. Having it stepped back about 30 feet or so is much better than just a facadectomy where it would be right up to the street with the wall of the hotel. This kind of treatment(rather than outright demolition of existing pre-war structures)should be encouraged more often whenever possible or feasible-like on some of the older lower buildings still left along High. There still is a future office component behind this, right?

I really wish there was no "future phase" with that. Anyway I don't know if this is posted yet. https://www.columbusunderground.com/boutique-hotel-proposed-for-italian-village-site-bw1 Such a good place for infill but I don't see any mention of any first floor commercial or retail.

It is kind of shocking to me that metro Columbus is only about 300 behind Chicago metro in African foreign-born. That is just amazing to me. Good for Cbus. I hope that easier-to-get-a-green-card thing is helping and if so continues to do so. Might want to send these stats about migration(although it is mostly international probably)to a certain blogger and Manhattan Institute member.. ?

The red is looking so much better than I thought it would. Is the bare concrete going to be covered with something? The concrete garage lower part and the upper concrete-will that have a covering? Gray would look nice.

I would like to see a tower along with the lower level things/pedestrian access and experience. Btw, why is this discussion taking place here and not in the Crew Stadium/Confluence Park thread..? Given the isolated location I would be ok(for this area, if nothing else)with a tower in the park kind of thing. Sort of like a northern Miranova-an island unto itself

OK the red building is looking so much better than I thought it would. Just imagine all of those surface lots filled in with developments! This could be a dense and amazing mixed use district. *All of these posts with views from downtown highrises are greatly appreciated.

There are old people all over the place-this is Ohio right? And many older and poorer people use public transit, so yeah they are going to use cash. And being an older person I hope the next time you are in line to buy something that three old people are ahead of you, one slowly counting out money, the next fumbling forever in various pockets and folds of clothing for spare change, and the last writing a check..very slowly. ? * All three C's should have funded free regional mass transit-like I believe Kansas City is trying to implement right now. Solves this problem. Get on, get off. More riders, less cars on the road, etc. etc.

500 new jobs coming to Central Ohio: https://columbusregion.com/news-events/press-releases/hims-inc-expands-to-the-columbus-region-creating-500-new-jobs/

NIMBYS are a problem everywhere. And these suburbs with huge lot sizes are a big part of the problem. We are building less than half the housing we need. I swear that about a third of the greater Cbus population wants no growth and the city to stay the same, and another third pine for what the city was in 1987! Let's face it we are in Ohio and are really helping to keep the state afloat we need to grow or we will stagnate. There are so many aging strip malls that need to be redone with housing on top smh. We really need some kind of comprehensive regional zoning changes, and if not that, at least within the city to maintain historical character in certain neighborhoods while allowing densification along corridors and at certain nodes(like dead malls and stores like what they are doing at the old Anderson's site on the northwest side.) There are tons of places like that-especially in the 'uncool crescent'. Now how to get affordable housing built in places in the uncool crescent like Great Western and Westland, I don't know. And getting those people to where the jobs are?-I don't know that either. But someone needs to figure that out. *These developers could build one 1,000,000 dollar house on a 250 by 250 foot lot, or ten houses on 50 by 100 foot lots out of the same lot for 175-200,000 a piece, and they might be able to afford pitching in for roads and infrastructure-if they were allowed to*. I don't think the "just build luxury housing and that will solve the problem as it frees up existing housing space" works when the population is growing like it is here. *Cbus is doing this...but what suburbs(where so much new greenfield growth is happening)are allowing this outside of a few isolated developments?

Of course nobody was talking about actual physical suffering. smh. It must be all due to partriarchy, toxic masculinity, and the fact that gender neutral pronouns have not been universally adopted(ze, zir, zim, etc). And I am a liberal alphabet person saying this in jest of course! ? Also if you are going to quote from an article, try a little more balance... And the ending of the article: So does being a fan in the (arguably) greatest sports rivalry in US history also give us cancer? ? Damn as someone who grew up on the far west side and now lives outside of *gasp* West Jefferson(if that is not part of the uncool crescent I don't know what is)I probably am already doomed to cancer lol.

So sweet to see any losing Harbaugh on the sideline! lol. Made the win even better.

Yeah I overlooked that at first. The tallest building should probably be on the Jacobs lot unless they can do something really creative with the Jacobs lot to help activate it and the square while also closing that piece of Frankfort street so that lot would not be encircled completely by roadway. I don't know what that activation would be to be honest. Other than that, i agree-put the tallest iconic building on the Jacobs lot(and no flat roof).

Would be great for y'all to have something like this, but with the tallest tower on the square to have a more distinctive top rather than a flat roof. Another tall spire to match the two tallest in the city would make a nice grouping. Two spires are two spires, three spires would make a nice cluster. JMO.

The "residential" I spoke of could also be just moving more of the shared student housing there. They could always, say, sell the land directly north of the new planned commons so a private developer could put in an apartment building like the Neilston-nice location right next to the park and would go along with the adjacent private housing/retail planned for the west side of the commons, right? It is just a shame to see another massive(and relatively low) parking garage that will be basically a copy of the one next door virtually creating a new parking garage district(similar to the one we already have southwest of the Nationwide complex). We just do not need huge but low stand alone parking garages within our downtown. They are the Agent Orange of downtown vitality IMO. I understand the need for parking at a large commuter college but do it right for Chrissakes.

I hope you get a nice campus there with a nice tall iconic skyscraper surrounded by lower buildings with good street presence and lots of retail. At least one Ohio city should get an iconic new skyscraper-Lord knows we aren't going to get one down here. Good luck! Fill in that parking crater! A win for this in Cleveland is also a win for all of Ohio! As a state we are all in this together. NO to sunbelt relocation!

I really wish they could make the partnership garage at least taller and then partially wrap it with some residential and ground floor retail. Unless it already is..I can't tell from that map. Does that U shaped line around it mean anything? If not, it is just going to be a duplicate of the massive garage right next to it. *ok from the video is looks like it is just going to be a stand alone massive garage. What a waste. Why not take it up a bit and wrap those three sides with residential? and much of the development, while looking good, could be a floor or two taller. Two and three floors just seems a bit lacking.

864 units on 70 acres of land is not bad at all density wise, especially for this location. At least it is infill fairly close to the core of the city rather than sprawl in Delaware County.

Given that we are dealing with Arshot and what happened with the old Cooper Stadium site, I have almost no belief that this will get built. I agree with the above about Coleman being involved. Too bad. I am writing this off, and if it does happen, it will be a nice surprise. That is all.

You are NOTHING like that guy. That is the same nut was banned here and who was always on the Citydata Columbus development thread-and effectively killed it, right? Just because you have some high expectations does not put you anywhere near being like that obsessed psycho. I for one usually agree with most of what you post. There is nothing wrong with having high expectations, and being let down when things get watered down...it does seem like it happens to Cbus developments alot. But progress is slowly being made, and there is no reason to not post because you sometimes are an "outlier" on here. JMHO. We know there is a "good enough for Cbus" or "better than nothing" habit with Cbus and development, transit, etc. I don't know why it is that way...same way I don't know why the city has the inferiority complex/defensiveness it can have...but I know the way it is- it has been that way forever-it was the same way even back in the 80's. I don't know when or if that will end. But it is no reason to give up. And this is not an attack on any of the mostly very good posters on this Columbus development boards here. *I just noticed there is a Columbusite commenting on the 15 Cherry street 4 story renovation. I don't think that is the same guy. And why did you not back me up on wanting something more for that prime corner of downtown in the thread here!!!??? lol. Another prime location for both height and density(like the Long and High missed opportunity which we both know was such a waste). *And you are right about Aaron Renn as well. He is way too influenced by his conservatism and that is not his only bias. Notice how he never really addresses the direct questions about migration statistics but just does the strawman "booster bro" stuff? That is his way-don't dare challenge him. Good thing he basically took down his blog-he could never really handle any criticism. Sorry off topic here but oh well.

Well Maybe y'all are right and something good can still come from the rest of the quarter block. I will say that this box is at least not fronting the streets but instead the alleys..and yeah this does not mean it will be there forever. I just think this corner would be so good for something with some decent height(and good design and street level presence). Who knows, it may still happen.

Me either until I saw it mentioned in the comments on Columbus Underground. I don't comment there anymore(my name was WJT over there) because I do not want to have to keep identifying street lights, etc. again and again to try to sign in to it.