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^^ and just one more thing...F@#K You, Precourt. Good Riddance!

Columbus just broke it's all time precipitation record from 2011 which was 54.96 inches. We are now over 55 inches for 2018. Hell if it is going to rain as much as it has this year we might as well just get the record(and with just 6 hours left in the years too).

This. It will largely utilize the parking that already exists in the Arena district.

Cincinnati may be getting less than ideal infill, but at least it is in an urban setting with existing urban form and infrastructure. This is sort of unattractive urban infill in what seem like old suburban or "old poorer Southern" neighborhoods that have the built environment of semi-rural areas(no sidewalks, curbs, storm sewers, narrow roads lined with ditches, etc.) You get increasing density with the infill but that. is. it. The juxtaposition of the new urban infill with the overall poorly built environment and infrastructure is jarring and not appealing to me. I just don't know how you develop an urban neighborhood with the "bare bones crappy roads cracking at the edges leading into dirt weeds and grass and then ditches" look that currently exists.

^^ I am glad that some of you like you and jonoh81 go through the trouble of calculating these things and posting them for us. *I admit I am tempted to keep the *booster bro* thing going and post a thread like "COLUMBUS HITS 900,000 FOR THE FIRST TIME!!!!" just to troll other cities...but I will restrain myself out of respect for Mr. Renn and the board here and instead go over once again all of the shortcomings and things that need improved in Columbus lol. NO LIGHT RAIL! what a disgrace!!!! ....

The sidewalk seems so out of place because it is abutting a drainage ditch and rural-looking road with no curbs or storm sewers. Most of these pics look like new construction in some rural outpost town, except there is a freeway sometimes and the occasional skyline in the distance. You would not think you are in a large and fast growing city. The new houses are often not very attractive looking either.

^^ Dang. Where are they putting all of these people? There just does not seem to have been enough new construction to handle over 150,000 more people in Franklin County since 2010. Is there a link to those numbers you posted? I can't find anything for those 2018 MORPC numbers and was curious about a few other places not on your list. Impressive numbers for Grandview Heights, which may reach 10,000 when all the infill is completed I think. And Obetz! is now a city at over 5,000.

I think he may be referring to this: Cleveland 1950 Boundary 2010-2017 Change: -6,000 2017 Cleveland City Boundary 2010-2017 Change: -11,290 If they are the basically the same, then why the discrepancy between these two numbers? Where did the extra 5,290 people come from? Unless I am just misconstruing this and all which is possible...

I agree with this as well. If you look back 30 or 40 years, what many of these conservative rural people believe now is similar to what many liberals of that time believed then. Over the long term, things have gotten more liberal over time, no matter where you are pretty much. Also I think demonizing the people who live in rural areas is not a good thing-not everyone there thinks the same and is a carbon copy of the typical Fox News commenter and this just increases the divide that currently exists. I understand that some of this is a backlash to Trump and all(which may be seen as a backlash/whitelash as Van Jones called it), but to do the same thing of mindless counter-bashing is kind of counterproductive. The best we can do is try and make sure that this backlash is the one step backwards before the two steps forward.

^^ Agree with you jonoh81. I live in a rural area in a township and yet I am only 20 miles from Broad and High and live close by 70 so it is a straight shot into Columbus. Also I am just outside of a town of about 5,000 as well. I think many of these people who mean "rural" mean areas like this-fields and cropland, some horse and llama farms, etc. but still close enough to a large city. Sort of really exurban rather than rural and within metropolitan areas. I also agree in concentrating on "nodes" within the state: smaller urban centers that can be smaller urban hubs that rural residents can commute to fairly easily-many rural residents are used to long commutes anyway. It would be a concentration in investment and employment and not necessarily writing off existing rural communities within commuting distance. Of course that might mean that the truly rural poor(especially those who might lack a vehicle) might have to relocate to avoid being in employment, service, and food deserts. Madison County for example is hardly a liberal bastion but is not exactly a raging conservative center either. And it is growing and part of that growth is now becoming sort of urban spillover-look at the plans for expansion around Plain City and there is a plan for a 400 acre new development for West Jeff on both sides of 40 just east of 142. These areas will be within commuting distance of Columbus itself. With another 750,000 to 1 million people moving into the Central Ohio region, at least some of that growth is going to be in these adjacent counties.

I searched for "Branding Columbus" and "Columbus Branding" so the "rebranding" did not come up. Thanks for merging the threads.

All I meant was I really was not trying to stir up a hornet's nest, and I will admit I should have mentioned the Renn article and explained that it was just a joke as not everybody is reading that article and would "get" that joke. My bad for omitting that.

^^ I think OSU has not kept up in that regard(OSU and AG) especially compared to other Midwest Universities. In fact I think Aaron Renn mentioned that at some point, if I am not mistaken. And yes this is a big lost opportunity. We don't seem to value our history or what is authentic about the city. It used to be OSU football, the Ohio State Fair(biggest in the country!-which was a lie really lol), and not really a whole lot else except making a lot of buggies back in the day and having arches on High street..nothing really stands out to me I have to admit. And none of those things that do would seem to work. Columbus has excelled at being average/good/steady/etc, and it is hard to market that. Maybe marketing our intact revived inner urban neighborhoods more? Going back to the whole 'High Five" thing/marketing the High street corridor from German Village to Clintonville as a great urban street more? The way the city and region are able to collaborate more than other areas that are more balkanized? I don't know how we would really market that. But it seems that we need to have some "bullet points" to go along with some general something or other. I don't even know what Columbus Pizza is? I favor Chicago Deep Dish myself.

I did not find a thread for something like this when searching, so I decided to create one. How can Columbus best 'Brand" itself? There has been discussion lately on several sites about this. It is a conundrum for me as I really just come up with a blank slate when thinking about this. I just really don't come up with anything on this one. Do any Columbusites have any ideas? Is branding even really that important..what do you think? Anybody from other Ohio cities or beyond have any ideas or input?

I remember that guy from here(when I almost exclusively lurked) and I see him on CD(where I am not a member and only lurk-I will not be a part of that site). He is beyond anything I have seen and has destroyed the development thread over there. Matt is no where close to that. He has problems with a certain mindset he sees there, and takes that into non-Cincinnati discussions, but it is NOTHING like that nut in Minneapolis. Anything and everything about Columbus is attacked and compared unfavorably to any other possible place with no exceptions and it is done with an obvious bitterness that comes through very clearly. It is kind of disturbing to me-someone being that caught up on hating some city that you don't even live in anymore. So glad that guy is not here anymore.

I often agree with him. I think he was spot on about Nashville and it's light rail plans for instance. I guess maybe there are some "Booster Bros" in Columbus if one of the recent comments over there is true re: the Minneapolis job applicant. If six people actually said "What does Minneapolis have that Columbus does not have?" then that is a problem. There is no denying that among other things we do not have the legacy institutions that cities that were larger earlier(the twin cities had about 830,000 people within their city limits alone in 1950)have. Add into the fact that the urban area is about twice the size now as that of Columbus, and it really makes me wonder how many people are that ignorant about other cities/states? I think the major thing that has held Minneapolis back just a bit is the climate, or maybe even the perception of the climate being worse than what it really is. Kind of like the perception that Cleveland is absolutely buried in snow during the winter, when most of the Lake Effect stuff is east and inland.

Well bless his heart*said in best southern style*. How are things in incestuous Cincinnati? lol. I can't believe Renn backed down on banning that guy. And he still just goes on and on about "The Place That Shall Not Be Named" like no policy was ever put in place.

Dammit.

Yeah I think that may be it. I forgot to take that the building will start from below High street into consideration.

Bro, Brah, Bruh, plus some gender neutral/fluid term. Zro/Zrah/Zruh perhaps? lol

It was a joke post referring to Aaron Renn's article on Columbus. Too bad people on here could not get that. smdh.

Columbus has 100 homicides as of yesterday. https://www.dispatch.com/news/20181218/man-found-shot-to-death-on-northeast-side Much better than last year and on line with what the city has had for the last ten years or so (between 100-110 homicides). Last year had 143, so a big improvement(hopefully there is no explosion in murders in the next two weeks or so.)

So CU says 28 floors, and the Dispatch has it at 27 floors. Which is it?

Isn't about 25,000 the same number as the growth being seen in the Columbus MSA? *Booster Bro post* lol

I hate that I kind of think you might be right.