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If that is the new look they are going for it is a big improvement. Love it!

It may not be the best, but to compare it to Khrushchyovka is a bit of a stretch.

Ugh! I did not need to know this!

I really wish they would get it together at Easton and make it the truly dense mixed use node that it could be. I HATE that there is so much surface parking-even sunbelt cities like Dallas were using parking garages in suburban office developments nearly 40 years ago. Seeing those sprawling lots that could be built up with more office or residential is so irritating. And they really need to mix it up and not be so much a retail center or they risk going the way of the typical enclosed mall-or the way of the dinosaurs. If that huge proposed entertainment project up in Delaware County comes to fruition they will be facing even more competition and will lose out on the chance to incorporate some of that for their own development. It would suck if 20 years from now they have gone the way of the mall or the Continent.

So country music is now "low class culture"? ELITIST SNOB!!! lol. I think Cbus should then go for state fair stuff(we could be the "it" city with food on a stick), and bowling. *He mentions Indy a lot but is often not very kind to it. I will never forget how he described the city as 'built on the cheap' and with significant parts of it looking like a small rural town because of lack of sidewalks, curbs, storms sewers, etc.. He posted pics of his own street I believe as an example. I will admit he is not afraid to call out things as he sees them. Maybe being in NYC has made him even a bit rougher. I am now kind of hoping he has forgotten about his upcoming post on Cbus. That crazy guy who used to post here, got banned from here(and other sites) and is now on City Data and spars with jbcmh81 has enough negativity towards the city for everyone. You are talking about the Minneapolis guy, I assume. Yes. He is just unhinged really. I have rarely seen anything like it. He stalks that Columbus development thread on City Data like some hungry vulture. I am not a member there and just read posts and am not that familiar with the rules, but I don't see how he gets away with that obvious trolling. While I read posts there, I would never be a member of a site like that.

So country music is now "low class culture"? ELITIST SNOB!!! lol. I think Cbus should then go for state fair stuff(we could be the "it" city with food on a stick), and bowling. *He mentions Indy a lot but is often not very kind to it. I will never forget how he described the city as 'built on the cheap' and with significant parts of it looking like a small rural town because of lack of sidewalks, curbs, storms sewers, etc.. He posted pics of his own street I believe as an example. I will admit he is not afraid to call out things as he sees them. Maybe being in NYC has made him even a bit rougher. I am now kind of hoping he has forgotten about his upcoming post on Cbus. That crazy guy who used to post here, got banned from here(and other sites) and is now on City Data and spars with jbcmh81 has enough negativity towards the city for everyone.

' What I have noticed is a change, as in the part of the post I quoted- "these days". Maybe in the last year or less? I did not used to see it this way. Despite my critical "venting" post, I still enjoy reading his blog despite my criticisms. I would hardly think he (or anyone here) would care since I am not a "target demographic" for either site. I guess actually seeing a post that caught what I had just been thinking a bit brought out a bit of the "let me get this off my mind" in me. Have you noticed any kind of "change" in the last year or so in his blog posts? I actually find myself agreeing with him on 'unpopular' things like his critical take on Nashville and it's failed mass transit plan. Is it less the individual specific parts and more the presentation of general ideas?-I am not sure.

Thank You! for this post. I agree he just seems so damn critical and well, sort of a smug know-it-all these days. I am glad I am not the only one who has noticed this. And it is not only that he is critical, it is that he is so critical of certain areas while ignoring the same things happening in other areas. I am waiting for his post he alluded to about finishing his thoughts on Columbus, and I know that whatever is said there will be a backhanded slap to go with it- a sort of "Bless their heart" kind of thing. * I could also quite happily go through the rest of my life without ever again hearing anything about Cincy's alleged 'incestuous' economic, social, and political elites. *Also looking at his latest post this morning, it is always that whenever he posts something and gets some flack for it, it is that the readers/responders did not 'get it' or are defensive-never that he himself might have gotten it a little wrong or worded things the wrong way. Never a 'maybe I might need to think about this some more' or anything like that. He will often just double down quite defensively himself. And I wish that, since he is writing in a blog, he might actually proofread his work and not just rely on spellcheck or something. There is a big difference between 'find' and 'fine' that spellcheck, etc. will not catch. Just sayin' and all-it bothers me seeing that in blogs and also on news sites. And Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati are not "radically different cities". They may have differences, but they are not radically different. Moscow and Karachi might be "radically" different.

I have heard that also but never actually read about it. Subdividing blocks into 20 or 25-foot lots really wasn't very rare in the 1700s and early 1800s. The difference is that in Cincinnati land was at a premium in the basin and so people built to the front lot line and the side lot line more so than they did in cities that had room to spread out like Columbus. German Village has more single-family houses and often has 60" or more between them. Too bad Cincinnati wiped out the best area with those (West end). Worse than any other city in that regard.

Yeah...even if they did some form of saving some of the front facades like for that hotel along Park street near the North Market..something that has some continuity with the street form in that area. I am skeptical of this. I hope they push for some kind of Paveyish thing or something to keep the very front of the streetscape. Seems like that open area could be a main entrance set back a bit and they could save and incorporate the facades of the existing buildings like on Park street downtown.

I really hope you are right and they take this as some form of inspiration for the Scioto Peninsula RFD.

Wow this really has an impact.

I love it!

Before it at least had a bit of quirky interest to it. Now it is thoroughly generic and charmfree. :(

I was a thinking the same thing a bit. They mention the 30,000 square feet and also mention artifacts as well with the exhibits. I am hoping that they just simplified things since this was not a real video but really a sort of animation and that is why it appears so...sparse in the video. You know how that can go sometimes. The video also has all those people walking up the ramp...but to what?-there are no people at the top and nothing is going on there. Hopefully it will be a bit more 'filled up' than it looks on the inside. Is there a site we can check out that will give more info about what the place will actually contain? I also think they made it clear at the beginning of all of this that it will not be a space for veteran's services, and that those services would be located somewhere else? The rather small square footage of the building(compared to the nearly 300,000 square feet of COSI)is a bit troubling. I wish we had more concise info.

^^ Hopefully they will comeback with something similar to the original proposal. I have to admit that I never liked the look of the tallest part of the last proposal-it looked too dark to me and too much like what they built at Columbus Commons.

Now that this is 'on hold', is there any chance that the property involved with this project could be combined at some time with the strip mall at the intersection with High? Are there any plans for that little strip mall? If they could combine these properties they could go higher right along High. I have hated that little strip mall for nearly 35 years since that restaurant at the corner was called the Toll House Inn and the Short North was ungentrified.

The article in today's Dispatch mention that the corporate headquarters (which they say is still considering the site) wanted a 'suburban like' campus per Buckingham and that is why it was scrapped. If that is the case, good! They (CDDC) also say it is not Amazon, but won't reveal who it is. http://www.dispatch.com/news/20180711/developer-says-prominent-stakeholder-cost-it-scioto-peninsula-project

Is much of this talk recently really about population trends, or other things at this point? Much seems really tangential at best. Just sayin'.

Yeah I've been to them, plus places like Montpelier, VT, which hardly qualifies as a "place". The fact is that nobody was complaining about Columbus hogging the state government jobs until quite recently. And people are are ignoring the fact that the federal government has for more jobs to spread around, and that my hometown, Cincinnati, had thousands of jobs related to the nuclear weapons industry that disappeared in the 1990s. I grew up about five miles from the plant and its closure was a big deal when I was a kid. People argued against its closure in order to preserve jobs...even though it was building crap we didn't need and polluting the hell out of the area. There are just way too many "struggling" big towns and small cities out there across the Midwest for the federal government and their respective states to plop down 50-100 jobs in each. That many jobs won't make a big difference, either. It's like adding a middle school. This is true. When the economies of the Legacy cities was booming, they did not care about OSU and the State government being in Cbus-they had their manufacturing and did not care that Cbus was actually underrepresented in manufacturing by comparison. Who was complaining about this stuff then? And if those manufacturing jobs were still around for those cities, they would not care that much either now. Why even bring it up?-it is not like they are going to break up OSU or the State government now and redistribute it around the state. There would not be enough to redistribute fairly to all of the cities-bigger and smaller-to make that much of a difference. Legacy cities have to look at other ways to bolster their economies and many of the larger ones like Cleveland and Cincinnati have enormous resources that they just have to take advantage of. Their are regional problems (like way too many municipalities duplicating services, fractured relationships between city and a multitude of suburbs, etc) that are far more important than complaining about Columbus having OSU and State government. It is hardly a thing plotted by Cbus to have those given they started in 1870 and 1812, respectively. I know everyone is gonna hate this post so go ahead and hate. lol. *shrug* oh well.

The tax abatement thing is a bit of an Amazon effect I think. They say they have phase one planned by 2021 and phase two planned for as close as a year later, but no location or rendering for that phase?-seems odd to me. Also 1000 surface lot spaces!!! Yikes! I suppose they will get what they want. Better than them leaving for Nashville or some other location. *sigh* The parking lot could just be a placeholder for phase 2. I'm not sure why they would want to build a second phase in another location if they had the space there. They could easily put in another building and build a garage. My point was it seemed odd to not have the 2nd phase not appear in the rendering-especially since it is supposed to rather quickly follow phase 1. As in are they really going to build a phase 2. Nothing to do with building it in another location. If it is going to open 1-3 years later after the first one, why leave it out?-that's all. And yeah if it is built the parking lot plus maybe an additional garage would make sense. Not a big deal really I am just suspicious of Big out of state companies I guess lol. Something just seems fishy to me about this McKesson- not sure why. Maybe I sense that this is just the beginning of companies wanting 100% tax abatements after seeing Columbus prostrate itself (like many other cities) before Amazon. "If they offered it to Amazon, we should go for it too..or threaten to go to a suburb/sunbelt city/etc. " This puts the city in a difficult position. And I am increasingly against Amazon for putting North America through this H2Q bidding war/contest/bullsh@t.

Maybe this was the project that they tried to get to go to the Scioto Peninsula and it fell through and caused them to ditch Buckingham?

^^ I hope with our economy doing well and with a NEED for more housing, we can attract more hispanic immigrants. My parents live on the far west side next to a Mexican family that has done very, very well with construction work-they transformed the house they bought, especially the inside, since they work on exclusive homes in Dublin, etc. They are the best family to live in that house in over 20 years. F**k the xenophobic crazy anti-immigrant stance that the nation's leadership has seemed to embrace. As a city Columbus should continue to reach out to and actively pursue ethnic, religious, or racial minorities (and especially persecuted groups like LGBTQ in areas like the Middle East, Africa, etc. )-the city and region is growing fast and can make a good case for moving here. I don't know how much the city alone can do, but it should do whatever it can to attract these people, especially if they can somehow manage to make it to the US on their own. And yes, this should be a sanctuary city to the hilt. JMHO *This Mexican family has also been very gracious in helping my parents with various small projects in their home, and even sometimes mowing their yard-as my parents are 90 and 85 years old and these small things help them remain in their own home independently. I wonder what Cbus and other Ohio cities are actually doing to attract immigrants. Is there a special department or something in the city that markets the city to certain specific groups like these minority groups?

Weren't parts of The Deer Hunter shot in and around Mingo Junction?

I posted this news item about that church from a special Franklinton-oriented issue of Business First they had last year. Haven't seen any updates since. Great. I see demolition in it's future. :( Not sure why you'd feel that way. If the City wanted to demolish the church, it would probably be demolished by now. It seems like the City is waiting for the right developer to make a proposal that would include re-use of the church. I am just thinking it might just sit there forever and deteriorate until it is deemed not worth saving or whatever. From google streetview it does not look that great with some apparent broken out windows and other damage to the facade. I just don't want it to continue to crumble until it is beyond repair. But you are right if the city 'wanted' it gone it would be gone already. I just hope the right developer will come up with something fairly soon. I really like that church and the apartment building just past it on State. They tore down the little brick house that was right next to it.