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The Forest Grand Medical Building was also designed by Paul Deneau (architect of the Grant-Deneau Tower). Deneau also did the Lakewoods apartment building on Wilmington Ave. The Grant Deneau Tower is currently under consideration for the National Register.

Sure will be http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2014/10/23/exclusive-downtown-dayton-building-sold-to.html?page=all

That would be the Dayton Executive Hotel that needs to be demolished, the Dayton Grand Hotel is downtown and now has a reputable new owner from what I hear. There will be some widening for turn lanes, and of course two traffic signals. I agree, nice to see development on a brownfield site rather than a cornfield...it is also a good use in one of the region's wellfield areas.

I don't know...to me "Miami Valley Gaming" at least somewhat implies a Dayton association. I know it is a river but Miami Valley is the informal name often used for the Dayton region.

Looking forward to 200 new housing units on Ludlow and the reuse of the historic Cox building

It's funny, I was just talking with a fellow transplant to Dayton yesterday about weird Dayton things--things that for whatever reason seem (to us) disproportionately emblazoned into the city's collective memory and indentity, things that Daytonians are just weird about. Salem Mall tops the list, along with Third and Main/RTA, Flyover statue, the big fountain, and Rhine McLin.

They do say it is from Census County Business Patterns, which is located here: http://www.census.gov/econ/cbp/ and one can easily just enter the zip code for desired years.

You would probably agree that all of these different boundary types have good things and bad things about them. One nice thing about Urban Areas is that they are not stuck with county boundaries. So, for Dayton, this means that its Urban Area includes parts of Warren County, whereas all of Warren County is in the Cincinnati MSA.

Here are the Ohio 2000 and 2010 figures.

Thanks for the help. I was going to use a photo to measure, but I wasn't totally confident on what made up the OTR Kroger footprint. That Wayne Avenue Kroger for my needs is more than adequate. In fact I far prefer it to one of the massive stores, Kroger or otherwise. I guess that 8,400 square feet between OTR and Wayne Avenue makes a huge difference.

Does anyone know how much smaller the OTR Kroger is than the Dayton Wayne Avenue Kroger?

Made me feel nostalgic. I have good memories of westside basements, backyards, and (later) bars.

Wow, that's great that one got free admission for the weekend for volunteering, they are not doing that for the Dayton music event - http://www.downtownrevival.com/index.php/getInvolved/#Volunteers

I did try the "compare same area idea" a while back. It's not really fair to Cleveland because of the lake. I started with what I guessed might be considered the central point of each city's downtown and went out the following distances from there. Using census blocks (for Columbus block groups) that have their center within the certain distance, here is what I found. I know some of the populations include jails and such, I haven't tried to remove these. Obviously, some of Cleveland's numbers are lower because of the lake, so this isn't really a fair comparison for them in some ways. I did include Kentucky in Cincinnati's totals, where applicable. Because I used block groups for C-bus, those numbers are not quite as good as the others, but certainly in the ballpark.

Has anyone seen or know of the estimated impact of each single person, in terms of Federal and State funding over 10 years? I know that in 2000 the US Conference of Mayors was saying each person was worth $2263. I also know that Lombard, IL said their 2010 Challenge would result in $1000 per person added. Has anyone in Ohio looked into this question? What I'm getting at is--Dayton is getting +116, on the first of at least two challenges--which seems silly, until you think that was a $232,000 correction (at $2000/person).

Not a new newspaper, but rather existing media adopting a more regional perspective.

I'd be first in line for a CIN-DAY paper. Seems possible. Heck, look at the DDN Sports page. Just today there are two articles by Enquirer's John Fay and one by Joe Reedy. What if a model like that were applied to other local/regional issues? I think the Dayton area would be interested in things like the streetcar, casino, Brent Spence Bridge. Side note: it is interesting to me when something happens in the area between CIN and DAY and both papers cover it. It's like the in-between area gets twice the news it deserves. (Example: alpaca beating)

Congratulations. Proud of you Cincinnati.

that's what I was thinking...I guess all development is infill...they're filling in the world

Thought this was kinda interesting. I started with what I guessed might be considered the central point of each city’s downtown (correct me if way off) and went out the following distances from there. Using census blocks (for Columbus block groups) that have their center within the certain distance, here is what I found. I know some of the populations include jails and such, I haven’t tried to remove these. Obviously, some of Cleveland’s numbers are lower because of the lake, so this isn’t really a fair comparison for them in some ways. I did include Kentucky in Cincinnati’s totals, where applicable. Because I used block groups for C-bus, those numbers are not quite as good as the others, but certainly in the ballpark.

It is fixed in the original column, and now refers to the northern suburbs. I for one live in Dayton and support the streetcar.

The Dayton numbers I posted are neighborhood counts, not tracts. I aggregated the blocks. I have easily comparable numbers city-wide for Dayton. If you are interested send me a message or something.

Here are some preliminary Downtown Dayton numbers: CBD proper - 1990: 1,465; 2000: 2,040; 2010: 2,196 (gain at St. Clair Lofts) Webster Station (ballpark area) - 1990: 5; 2000: 4; 2010: 362 (mostly the Cannery) Midtown (south of CBD) - 1990: 125; 2000: 85; 2010: 236 (mostly group quarters) Oregon - 1990: 1,284; 2000: 1,255; 2010: 1,308 (includes Dayton Towers) Overall, it looks like the city will show gains in 14 neighborhoods (of 64) most of which are in or near downtown or the fringes.

Indeed, one of my favorite threads. Reduced population does not equal dead. Reminded me of this video

Oh, that makes more sense. Last time I was back home someone said Pirates Den had moved into the former Drug Emporium. I was wondering if they removed the flourescent lights. I wonder why Champion's is moving?