Cleburger

Understood-- I didn't mean this as "official City of Cleveland planning." I meant it as a general blanket statement.

There are volumes in these forums on the subject but in TC it boiled down to the overall national retail climate combined with perceived security issues for patrons dealing with RTA riders (mostly schoolchildren). One area were retain continues to hang on is outlet malls as destinations. One area they tend to thrive is near casinos. There happens to be one next door, with a planned Phase 2 out back.....

Exactly!. This makes no sense to me. They want to put a "technology center" in a perfect retail site, and build a suburban outlet mall in the parking lot of a GA airport. Sometimes Cleveland planning makes me scratch my head.

In all fairness, Lakewood is not exactly suburban. It's more dense than many Cleveland neighborhoods--and also a great place to raise children.

Cover his alimony payments for a year or two and he might just do that for us!

I didn't see any kind of party happening. There were just randomly parked cars and open spaces.

I was thinking about this last night as I walked to the game--they must have WAY overpriced those lots, or people were just scared to drive to close-, because the surface lot across from the Q was less than 50% full at 7 pm last night.

Glad to hear! Any clues you can share with us?

Sadly though, most (though not all) casino patrons are the types that go strolling over to the warehouse district in search of retail.

I'm probably outnumbered and outspoken, but I do! Perfect place for an outlet mall. Tech hubs and casino patrons have nothing in common. But outlet shopping fits the bill, and provides much needed retail for downtown residents.

I'm 6'4" and frequent the United RJs. I hate seat 1A though, because you have to put your bag in the overhead, which is 3 rows behind you. 18A on the United RJs is the one. Exit row solo....easy living (other than the noise...and god forbid I have to use the toilet!)

Democracy slowly slips away

Pffft....the union and Jackson administration will defend him

Yeah...this must have been horrible. Or any one of the multitudes of public gathering places around the world where people go to board public transit!

It looks like a nice long subway train to me, which is somewhat painful knowing Cleveland's transit situation....

As long as they don't hire the same company that designed the RTA fare machines please. I don't like having to conduct a transaction on my knees.....??

I can't read it due to paywall, but I can only imagine.... The Jackson administration is incapable of their own thought.....

Isn't the prepared foods part of the business plan as a whole?

They do--its on Nicollet Mall

So many issues here.... 1. Burke is all landfill. Probably not impossible to build structures on, but certainly more expensive. 2. Haslam would be dead and gone before the first truck of concrete was poured on such a regional airport. Between the FAA, financing and the inevitable NIMBYs in Brunstucky or whatever farm community this things would go would tie it up for decades. 3. CLE's O/D numbers are strong--but not enough to justify such a massive project especially in a region still losing population. There is also plenty of room to expand on the current airport site (IX Center, Terminal D, etc) 4. CLE is a great little airport that is horribly mismanaged by the City of Cleveland. It's 12 miles from the CBD, which makes it a great asset vs some mega generic airport 40 miles outside town.

In my travels I've seen varying offerings at City Targets for groceries, probably dependent on their square footage. IMO a City Target in conjunction outlet mall collection would be the way to go at TC. It would serve downtown residents and casino patrons equally.

Same. I'll never understand the city or its developers. We have a dying retail space--so we're talking about putting a suburban shopping mall up near the lake front instead of remaking this perfectly good retail space.

When I saw this upper level siding I actually thought it blended well with the LI neighborhood, where many owners chose to clad their early century homes in tacky aluminum siding and awnings!

Not really restoration, and sort of environmental, but interesting none the less! How much extra water is in Lake Erie now at its record high? - 79 days of flow over Niagara Falls https://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/2019/06/how-much-extra-water-is-in-record-high-lake-erie-79-days-of-flow-over-niagara-falls.html?utm_campaign=clevelanddotcom_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR0XtV5KAi_y5E-_YlXd_iXzmkaFYUZ8pShJMFXdknlsq-7L5HEiR5FsmYE

I'm sure I'm not the only one on here that longs for Public Square of the past, a center of transit and commerce. Burying buses and cars only lends itself to the corporate powers trying to change the square into a some kind park in Westlake.