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But there is no demand. We can make it a park, but there is no one to maintain it. Any kind of building will be far short of the lofty goals we all hope for on Urban Ohio. My fear is a gated community, or townhouses, like ended up happening in Buffalo.

What is your definition of "Cleveland's first Renaissance?"

My guess would be Bedrock riverfront

Copy I didn't check the performance charts. But I'm sure a one-way delivery to Cleveland is not an effective freight business model 😜

It took 30+ years to redevelop a parking lot on Public Square. You are being ambitous about thousands of acres on the lakefront. And, BTW, there could be a lakefront bike trail next year, if we had the will to make it happen. Just route it around Burke and it would be one of the cooler lakefront trails in the country with jets landing next to you!

it would. It's a great cash grab for those deputies to make some extra $$$ on the side.

Actually the conventional wisdom in the concert industry is that the days of stadium concerts are numbered as the legacy acts retire. Take the Stones, AC/DC, Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Eagles, Journey, Billy Joel etc etc away and you're left with just a handful of acts who can play stadiums. So "inevitable" is a strong word.

It's always worse when you have 58,000 people who never, ever come downtown. WWE Summer Slam is one of those events.

A completely empty C5 can land there.

Currently no--only for small scale medical transport (organs, live tissue etc)

It's not only spongy, but when holes are dug brown sludge oozes up from the earth below.

Yeah Ed is pretty bad. Chasing the post-Trivosanno exurban mouth breathers for sure!

This is called "fast-tracking" in City of Cleveland government. Hence the need for emergency repairs....

This could also be achieved and co-exist with Burke by building a greenway along the water at Burke connecting the E9th area with Gordon Park. It would certainly be a unique place to jog and bike with aircraft landing on one side and the water on the other.

They also had to fly a Boeing 727 (and many other aircraft) off the field from a taxiway. The owners of the aircraft should have all filed a class action suit against the city for putting their aircraft in jeopardy by stranding them there. It's also very much apples to oranges. Chicago had very little buildable or public space in the central business district. Cleveland has a sea of surface lots and vacant, weed-strewn land. Cleveland needs to maximize Burke while it can and focus on getting the rest of the waterfront land filled up (Scranton, Bedrock Tower City etc). Once everything is exhausted, we can turn our attention to Burke. I don't see that happening for 100+ years.

I guess I never really noticed because I'm almost exclusive United out of CLE, but American's expansion here is impressive, at least for this casual observer. As I walked to the club this morning every gate between C1 and C14 had a B737 or ER175 parked at it and the gates were packed with people. It made it difficult to walk the concourse. It seems like it was only a few years ago that there might be one or two American flights at any given time. EDIT: A couple of them might have been Jet Blue....

Cleveland.com continues it's pursuit of excellence by publishing a photo of the wrong building....

One of the reasons that over in the Lakefront thread, I continue to argue to leave Burke alone for as long as we can. There are plenty of other areas of this city ripe for development.

And in the case of Cleveland, the addition of many other government and private entities makes it even more messy in trying to correct 100 years of Lakefront mistakes (depending on who you ask). There's the Feds, the FAA, the county, the port, the city, the Browns, Haslam, etc etc etc. Plus the scale of it is fairly massive. Meigs field in Chicago was roughly 80 acres. Burke Lakefront is 450! Plus all the additional acreage of the port and the stadium site. It's no small undertaking.

I mentioned these several times upthread. It would take some forward thinking by Bibb and company, but they should be meeting with these startups and offering free land to build hanger spaces etc if they base out of Cleveland. We are in a great geographic position to test these taxis and bring them to market, with short hops to Detroit, Toledo, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Toronto, etc.

There is a little hatch and terrace they step out onto. Check it out:

Capital cities will always have a step ahead in the convention business for state-wide conventions, which for obvious reasons gravitate towards the center of government (and also in Ohio and Indiana, are also geographically central).

Not a jingle...but still memorable. Especially for my family as my parents ended up in court with this guy over our 1979 Malibu that broke down on the way home from the dealer! Kids today don't realize really how bad American cars were in the 70/80's

I took the Red Line to the guards game the other night. Train was reasonably full on the way there with lots of non-game people. Even more impressive, in both directions the train operator made stop announcements that were clear and easy to understand, unlike most RTA operators.

It's not a bad looking building....just not on this site.