Cleburger

Yes vision is good--let's hope reality follows suit. It's hard to fathom that some of the largest population density between New York and Chicago is within walking distance of this intersection and yet we sit here biting our nails worried about a Walgreens or strip mall. This is one instance when I feel we should "build it and they will come." If they build something noteworthy here it will be well-patronized. A grocery with mixed use development above would be best. A starbucks would be off the charts (the current location is tough to get in and out of and always crowded). I wonder if this wouldn't be easier to achieve if the intersection lied in the same city as the population density? If the Gold Coast were in Cleveland, or the intersection was in Lakewood-proper?

Church or no church, I hope the planning commission does the right thing and doesn't allow for a parking lot fronting 117th and Clifton. To me it seems like another perfect spot for a 10-12 story senior tower, with ground-level retail. With residents beyond their driving years it will ease up on the parking ;)

I haven't been to Heinen's in Rocky River in quite some time, but I don't remember the parking being much more than would be on site at 117th/Clifton, including leaving the church where it stands. Part of the allure of a grocery chain there is many residents are within walking distance and wouldn't need a car.

So it seems the church is the only thing standing the way of another Walgreens or similar monstrosity courtesy of Mr Westbrook. "SAVE THE CHURCH!!"

Cudell and it's people might as well be stuck in 1974. They don't comprehend making the neighborhood livable for the future. They want to celebrate success stories of the "now", like a new sign at Constantino's, or a rehabbed gas station EZ Mart. You can try posting something your opposition on their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/152391705199/?ref=ts&fref=ts But true to their time warp, Cudell doesn't understand social media and will promptly delete anything "negative" or against their intentions. They are also seeking nominations for the board if you're interested. ;) Who exactly are the stakeholders that are keeping the Cudell Improvement District stuck in 1974? Here are the people of CDC: http://www.cudell.com/who.asp I'm sure no one is deliberately holding back progress. Just in my dealings I feel they want to take the path of least resistance. They are more comfortable doing the same thing, year after year. Mr Westbrook is the same way--a good guy, but not willing to stand up and fight the good fight necessary now that the areas demographics are quickly changing.

I don't think that request is absurd at all--mixed use retail with apartments above is just what the corner needs! Bring on the Crocker Park!

Cudell and it's people might as well be stuck in 1974. They don't comprehend making the neighborhood livable for the future. They want to celebrate success stories of the "now", like a new sign at Constantino's, or a rehabbed gas station EZ Mart. You can try posting something your opposition on their facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/152391705199/?ref=ts&fref=ts But true to their time warp, Cudell doesn't understand social media and will promptly delete anything "negative" or against their intentions. They are also seeking nominations for the board if you're interested. ;)

If they can be saved fine, but there are so many beyond repair or heaved up from tree roots that something has to be done. I like the old pavers as well, but it may be time to update.

That's the first I had read about the W117-West Blvd construction shuttle next year. That's a real bummer.

That's absolutely Insane! Sincerely, Giant Eagle Nothing like outsourcing to your customers. I always tell any store when I wait in line for a real cashier that if I want a part time job checking groceries I'll apply with the manager. Until then I'd rather wait in line then do the self checkout in any store. Wegmans over in PA and NY has the same deal as Acme--they still rely on human cashiers--and it shows. Stores are always packed and cashiers are quick and efficient. Have you ever waited behind someone struggling with the scanners and the human cashier has to come help them every 10 seconds? Wouldn't it be easier to just have the professional do it in the first place? :whip:

I'm sure the Gold Coast is the largest single factor.

There are two things you should never do in Cleveland. Never let a child pick your RTA fare machines. And never ever ever bet on the Browns.

Good work! I believe Believeland!

The more I think about, the more a Heinen's doesn't jibe with the company's recent direction. Their latest addition is a ritzy Chicago burb. I hope I'm wrong, because if they are still growing, the Nordonia area makes sense. :) However, one of the more organic/health food oriented places might fit the demographics better. Mustard Seed, Whole Foods, or Trader Joe's (which only has two Cleveland area locations, neither of which is close). I tend to agree with your assertion on Heinen's. They also have a high-volume store minutes away in Rocky River, and most everyone in the area has a car. But I continue to hold out hope that one of these stores ends up on that corner.

You're talking about a councilperson and development organization that celebrate, with fanfare, things like a new sign at Constantino's. In reality we shouldn't slam just Westbrook and Cudell. This is what neighborhood-level development has become in Cleveland (save for maybe downtown and Gordon Square). Woohoo a new storefront! On the bright side, we do have the tired and poorly designed spinning snowmen, nutcrackers and snowflakes to look forward to on Clifton for the busy shopping season. Way to go Cudell.

Well i suppose it's better than a vacant lot... I had a feeling Cudell was involved. Always about 25 years behind the times....

Not wanting a McDonald's in one's neighborhood is "food snobbery"? Oh my. When there's high unemployment and people need jobs (ANY jobs)? Yes, yes it is. Mildly off-topic, (and I'm not sure if still true or not), but years ago the owner of the McDonalds at 30th and Carnegie told me he had to bus kids from the suburbs to work at that location because he couldn't get any local kids to work there. Turns out that for kids growing up in the projects, getting a job and showing income affects their mother's qualification for public housing. So they were not allowed to work at McDonalds, even if they wanted to. So he bought a couple 15 passenger vans, and would hire kids from Warrensville, Garfield, Maple Heights, etc and drive them in to work on Carnegie. But a job's a job, and it starts with construction jobs, which of course are highly coveted. I hope the neighborhood gets a design like the one above! You can be assured that the location will be a high-volume store, so a two-story location could certainly be considered!

I'm with you West Blvd. This isn't part of a redeveloping neighborhood. This is some MBA sitting in an office somewhere extracting numbers from a zip code. There is already an Aldi up the street to fulfill the need of bargain and bulk purchases. I will continue to hold out hope that the former Giant Eagle/Malloys will become a Heinens since they serve totally different markets.

I think this is being overly simple. The roadway needs reconstruction anyway. This already happened in Lakewood. So of the $8 million, yes there is some beautification. But like it or not a sizeable portion of the budget would be needed to redo the road. The bus pads, lane markings and waiting environs are the transit portion, and that is not the largest portion of the project cost.

I'll try to get more info the next time it happens.

I will do my part. The problem will be renters. I see it happen all the time, including this week, where a trash can is knocked over by a dog or wind and spill everywhere, and the tenants lack the pride to clean it up. Makes me sick to my stomach.

Cleveland tickets regularly now, but I've never seen them tow except in the case where cars are abandoned multiple days. You're right--it's a source of revenue. I can already see the fleet of tow trucks lining up on one end of Clifton at 3:59 pm like they used to do on Old River Road in the Flats on weekend nights!

Mac 10.8 mountain lion. Just started happening recently though. I wonder if there was a Firefox update recently I missed.

Once again, I would reassure dissenter such as that gentleman that its just a lane (from his looks I would guess car potato). Its not as if we are ramming BRT and bus stations down Clifton that would cause millions to redo. Its a paint stripe and some signs. If we, as a neighborhood, decide its an abject failure after a year or two, all we need to do is remark the roadway and return the outer lane to cars at rush hour.

Ahh thanks. My wife's comments RE: bikes was that they should just widen the sidewalks and make a bike lane like they do in other countries. In other words, a wide sidewalk with a line for bikes only. OT: I did a walk through of the Louisa Mae. They completely gutted that place and it looks really nice now. The principal was beaming. I was thinking the same thing. Just pick one side of the street even and make that sidewalk slightly larger to accommodate bikes. I'm sympathetic to the cause--but let's face it Clifton has been for the past 50+ years just a freeway with stoplights on it. It's hardly a safe bicycle route during rush hour. I'm all for the wide sidewalk, or making sure Detroit and Lake Ave get the lane the bicyclists need. Thought the same thing on the school--i hadn't been in there for a few years since voting in person (I mainly do absentee due to my travel schedule). It is nicer than most suburban schools I've been to recently!