Ronnie

I have been diligently working on this one and the matter of it is...unless they add some height, it will lose some sq footage.

It's amazing how long it takes for city leaders to figure this one out.

Office tower revises sought More welcoming feel is suggested BY KEITH T. REED | [email protected] Cincinnati's Urban Design Review Board Wednesday asked the architect of a planned 40-story downtown office tower to consider how to make it more welcoming to pedestrians. In an hour-long presentation at City Hall, architect Gyo Obata showed off the latest revisions to the plans for the Great American Insurance Building at Queen City Square, a structure being developed by Western & Southern Financial Group. It would be Cincinnati's tallest building, rising 660 feet. The revisions offered by Western & Southern were mostly minor tweaks to the developers' last design board presentation in November 2003. http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080214/BIZ01/802140336/1076

The number of floors are not changing. It has been 40 since they announced the construction. According to the article, they are changing the appearance of the north and south side exterior to make it "appear" taller which means that it's not changing height at all. It will remain at 660'. After looking at the rendering the only thing I can conclude from the statement is the first setback on the front and back side is going to be lowered several floors. But that would be silly, because it would still be wide. Guess we'll just have to wait for the new rendering...

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So in other words, it isn't going to be taller, and it was already 40 floors, so no more floors would be added. All they're doing is lowering....what? I'm not sure I quite get this. And I agree with Rando. Have that queezy feeling going on here...

I was under the impression this was to be an observation tower of some time? I do not see that high enough to see beyond the trees...

Most insurances at major corporations cover a fixed percentage (like 80/20) until the deductable is met. I think its rarely that someone would have to come up with the entire deductable before any coverage. But, (and I'm not trying to start anything :-D) why does everyone act like medical care has to be completely free? Why is everyone bothered by the fact that you might have to spend some of your own money for health care? $2500 a year deductable is less than it costs to own a car. Treat it like any other industry, or expense. Like utilities, use it wisely and costs might come down. Considering I'm paying 120 bucks per month for my insurance and I only see a doctor maybe like twice a year, and then have to pay a $1500 deductable too, why should I have to pay anything more?? I mean seruiously, why should I bother even paying for insurance at all when I am not getting anything back? For the chance that I may need it for that baby when I'm not even married or that freak work accident I've been waiting for the last 20 years of my working life? I have spent enough money. All I want is my damn Flonase covered and they don't touch a penny of that! Ggggrrrrrrr!

Dayton sure has a slew of projects going on this year! Add this to the mix...[/ Woodland Cemetery outlines plans to build lookout tower, memorial vault Three-phase development will start with tower, plaza and a three-section niche wall for urns By Jim DeBrosse Wednesday, February 13, 2008 Throughout the 1800s and until the 1930s, the highest hilltop in Woodland Cemetery was crowned by a wooden lookout tower where families came to picnic and enjoy the scenic view of downtown. Now, Woodland plans to construct a replica of the tower on the original site as both a lookout and a memorial vault for cremated loved ones. The Lookout Tower and Columbarium will be built this summer, at a cost of about $300,000, as the first of three phases in the new development, officials said. Phase I includes a 30-foot-high tower, a gathering plaza for about 50 people and a three-section niche wall, or columbarium, containing a total of 104 single, double and companion niches for urns containing cremated remains. Read full article here: http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/02/12/ddn021308woodland.html

The article states "non-assembly" jobs at the old rate of 28 per hour. The average assembly line worker is about $14. I know this because I worked Delphi Moraine years ago on the assembly along with a few friends and we were started out around that rate. Yes, there are raises, but you can be there 10 years and not break $16 per hour on the line. GM usually starts most assembly line workers out as temps and they make even less. It is the skilled trade positions that make those wages. My dad has been with GM for 25 years and is a machinist. He makes the higher wages and deserves so. The insurance you speak of has been cut so much by GM, it's not worth squat. I believe the current insurance includes a $1500 deductible. So yes, you have to pay $1500 out of pocket before insurance will cover anything. That is ludicrous. GM employees have been getting the shaft by GM. It is poor sales and product performance that is getting GM in trouble, not UAW.

GM posts record $38.7 billion loss in '07 Detroit-based automaker offers buyouts to all 74,000 of its hourly workers. Associated Press Wednesday, February 13, 2008 DETROIT — General Motors Corp. reported a $38.7 billion loss for 2007 on Tuesday, the largest annual loss ever for an automotive company, and said it is making a new round of buyout offers to U.S. hourly workers in hopes of replacing some of them with lower-paid help. The earnings report and buyout offer came as GM struggles to turn around its North American business as the economy weakens. But GM Chairman and Chief Executive Rick Wagoner said that the company made significant progress in 2007, reducing structural costs in North America, negotiating a historic labor agreement and growing aggressively in Latin America and Asia. During a conference call with analysts and media, Chief Financial Officer Fritz Henderson said 2008 will be difficult, but the company sees the potential for significant earnings increases by 2010 or 2011 once it reduces its work force and labor costs and transfers its retiree health-care costs to a new UAW-run trust. ... http://www.daytondailynews.com/b/content/oh/story/business/2008/02/12/ddn021308GM1A.html

I take it this never happened? ***Edit: I was referring to the 4 million condo project that was to happen in the Oregon District.***

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Here's a PDF on MVRPC.org that shows proposed routes apparently dating up to 10/2007. I would imagine these would be fairly close. There is one proposal (phase 2) near the bottom apparently linking Carrilon, MVH and UD along Brown, Jefferson, Stewart and Warren Streets. http://docs.mvrpc.org/dahc/DACTS_Revised_091506.pdf

I'm pretty sure the streetcar route is proposed along Brown St. I think there is a little confusion going on here.

So then, this is what we should do. Go out en masse when our rebate checks come and use them at all the dining locations in the region, thereby equalizing regional spending and everything will be fixed! :lol:

I have not heard anything about RTA partnering on this. Maybe they will pick up on this and utilize it in their best interest...

Better watch that word. Maximilian will get ya! :-D

I agree that when a new chain opens, yes people swarm it. But like Jeffrey stated, after a few times of driving across town, people will tire of it and settle back into their normal routine. I think the Greene and the Villages are impacting the southern suburbs, but I think there is a enough residents in Vandalia, Butler Twp, Clayton, Englewood Union, Huber Heights and Tipp City to more than keep Miller Lane going, not too mention the proximity to one of the busiest interchanges in Ohio. As for Ryan's, I frequented them quite often along with Golden Coral a block down. I have to say, Golden Coral was always 3x's as crowded and was kicking Ryan's butt pretty bad. This is probably something Ryan's just could not compete against and caused the closure. The same could be said that Joe's closed because of Red Lobster a block down and Don Pablo's closed because of Chipotle across the street and El Ranchito across the highway.

Cliff Robertson to be present 'Reel Stuff' Film Festival of Aviation takes off in Dayton By Dave Larsen Staff Writer Tuesday, February 12, 2008 Academy Award-winning actor Cliff Robertson will be among the presenters at the first annual "Reel Stuff" Film Festival of Aviation. Hosted by the National Aviation Hall of Fame, the three-day event will be held April 24-26 in Dayton. More below, click link: The "Reel Stuff" film schedule and other festival information is available at www.reelstufffilmfest.com. Ticket packages and merchandise can be ordered on the Web site or by phone at (937) 256-0944 ext. 11. http://www.daytondailynews.com/e/content/oh/story/entertainment/movies/2008/02/12/ddn021208filmfestivalweb.html

I was driving through Oregon today and I was wondering if maybe the OD would eventually expand around to Wayne Ave on down to Coco's? It would be great to see this stretch get a little attention as well. It would double the size of the main drag and be a good bit of revitalization.

The gay clubs don't bother me. As a matter of fact, I go to Masque occasionally. I am not gay, but I do go with my girlfriend and my best friends because they (the Masque) have about half a million invested in their light show alone and it's one of the best, if not thee best, light shows in Ohio. I'm also a big euro-trance listener, so I like going there for the music. But I do admit, I have seen things there that do not need to be seen and the clubs do need to address this. Other than that, I have no problem with them.

Ohhh, I'm sure that's coming :-)

The places closing at Miller Lane were known for poor service which is why these places are closing left and right. Miller Lane has been established long enough that consumers are starting to weed out the bad ones. I would expect the vacant buildings to be moved into fairly quickly. I don't see the Greene affecting Miller Lane. They are 20 miles apart and the Greene attracts a higher class of sit down restaurant patrons with higher priced dinners. This area just needs to settle down, quit blaming the Greene for everything and just accept it as being here. It's not going to go anywhere and the Dayton region needs to adjust accordingly.