Ronnie

Ugh!! Finally I get to post for a change! Anyway, Looks like they are starting to put up the facade on phase 1. And they are up to the 7th level. I wish I had some pics to post. Next time I swing thru Cinci, I'll take a few update pics.

Oops. I fogot that my screen name is not LetsFoos anymore. Well, I guess my current one is pretty self-explanatory.

Wanna hear something really funny, Monte? I always thought that was your real name! LMAO! Ugh! :lol: Well, my screen name is simply from my hobby as a foosball player.

Yea, our polls showed Kerry would win Ohio and look what happened there. Damn Ohio...damn it to hell! LOL But anyway...my take on a Casino and gambling is this. Is it addictive? Yes. Is it a vice? Yes. Does it ruin marriages? Yes. Would I go? No. Do I support gambling in Ohio? Yes, as long as it's a free country and people want to spend their hard earned money on it, I support it. Because it is YOUR money and you have the right to spend it on whatever you want...even if it means blowing it at the Blackjack table. Just like beer or smoking...and it definately does LESS harm than the latter IMHO. Everyone, everywhere gambles EVERY day. When you go out to the gas station and buy that $1 lottery ticket, that's gambling. When you bet on the Bengals with your friends, that's gambling. When your grandma goes down to the bingo hall on Tuesday nights, that's gambling. When you go to that Texas Hold "Em tournament on the weekend, that's gambling...and yes, all the "house of god's" gamble as well. So don't bring moralities or the "I don't believe in gambling" issue into this. I do it, you do it, the churches do it...we all do it. It's apart of our everyday culture and it will never go away.

You know, this is just like the Freedom Tower project that is now in the hands of another architect. If someone would just follow through with Libeskind's original designs WITHOUT changing them drastically, we will never really know how Libeskind's visions look when actually built the way he designed them. Shame on Covington. The might as well change it to another box...and Moorman is a doofus.

I was just reading that in the paper up at Dairy Queen. It's nice to see this project moving along! We might actually see this thing replaced in our lifetime!

^ Well, most night clubs require cover charges on weekends. not little bars or anything. I won't pay a cover :-Þ

^ Oh, c'mon now, that's just a really bad way to do business. You make money selling beer, not cigarettes. And if you want to make more money, you try to accomodate both. But you don't want to tell a certain group of people to leave or your not going to stay in business very long. As for going out to an establishment just to smoke? I've never heard of anyone going out for the night, having to get a hold of all their friends, stopping to get money out of the ATM, paying for cover-charges and calling a cab at the end of the night...just to go out for a smoke. That's silly. :roll:

^ Some places just have HORRIBLE ventilation, or are just small in size and the smoke piles up quickly. Smoke eaters simply are not enough or are inadequate...especially if the air does not circulate enough to move the smoke to them. I personally think a study should be done to see what could be an acceptable amount of second hand smoke in the air in regards to health issues. Once you have that, an air monitioring device could be made and implemented within a ventilation system that would keep the second hand smoke down to the required level in a restaurant, bar, etc. This would be monitored and regulated just like any other health or safety concern. This kind of system could work in places such as bars and clubs, and hopefully everyone would be satisfied, smokers and non-smokers alike, without the risk of health concerns. BTW, what ever happend to the "smokeless" cigarette that was such a big news farce years ago?

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^ LOL, that will be Cincinnati's next ban! :lol:

I just love good timing when it comes to the news and newsgroup threads. Here is an article I found on MSN about the cost of smoking. I'm not trying to offend anyone here or push non-smoking beliefs on you. But if you are thinking about quiting, maybe this can help... The high cost of smoking Add it up: cigarettes, dry cleaning, insurance, breath mints. And the toll doesn't stop there. By Hilary Smith If the threat of cancer can't convince you to quit smoking, maybe the prospect of poverty will. The financial consequences of lighting up stretch far beyond the cost of a pack of cigarettes. Smokers pay more for insurance and lose money on the resale value of their cars and homes. They spend extra on dry cleaning and teeth cleaning. Long term, they earn less and receive less in pension and Social Security benefits. Researchers at Duke University found that the total cost of smoking -- the cigarettes, lost earnings, impact on insurance on mortality, even the impact of secondhand smoke -- runs about $40 per pack for the average 24-year-old. The Centers for Disease Control estimates 46.2 million adults in the United States smoke cigarettes. The economic burden of smokers totals more than $75 billion per year in medical expenditures, and $80 billion per year from lost productivity... http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/Insurance/Insureyourhealth/P100291.asp?Rating=10&PageID=100291#Rating

^ Good points. But there is one thing that I forgot to mention on my post. don't know how the heck I missed this. The owner of Slammers (where I play foosball) recently underwent chemo for throat cancer and is now recovering (thankfully). He is a good friend of mine and also a Foosball player himself (that's why he host tournaments there). It has been almost around 2 years since being diagnosed with Cancer. He has been unable to even enjoy coming into his own business because of the smoking. I think that would have to really be bad not to be able to frequent your business. I guess his dilemna would be this... If he tells people they can't smoke in his bar, he'll most likely lose business and have to close down. People will simply go elsewhere. However... If the city enables a smoking ban, patrons will not be forced out by the owner and since all bars in the city would be equal, he would most likely not lose his patrons. LOL, I just talked to my girlfriend on the phone while I was in the middle of this post. Here is what she said... "I don't think people should smoke in public places, it's our fault we're poor stupid smokers. Why should I inflict my addiction on people that don't smoke?" I was laughing pretty hard when she said that, I had to post it on here. But anyway, I understand your post about the music thing. I have to deal with that at McGuffy's. Fortunately loud music won't kill me though...well, I hope not! :shock:

I haven't seen any timeframe, but I will keep my eye open. I for one would be glad to see this done. I hate one way streets. :roll:

So...what are they going to see? Beer bottles and mud? oh wait...that's the Ohio! :lol:

^ Toledo has a downtown? That's why just started with Kettering Tower. :lol: DOH!

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This is kind of dated, but i can't find any postings on it... Downtown Dayton Street Grid Street Direction Conversion Study Parsons Brinckerhoff Ohio Incorporated (PB) has been commissioned by the Miami Valley Regional Planning Commission (MVRPC) to prepare a transportation study to assess the traffic-related effects of converting the existing one-way street grid system in downtown Dayton, Ohio, to a two-way street grid system. The proposed conversion to a two-way street grid system would coincide with the proposed improvements to I-75 and State Route (SR) 4. The traffic planning implications of the proposed conversion to a two-way street grid system are focused on the following issues: -The ability of the proposed two-way street grid system to operate at acceptable Levels of Service during the daily AM and PM peak hours; -The effects of converting to a two-way street grid system on the on-street parking supply; and -The effects of converting to a two-way street grid system on pedestrians in downtown Dayton. Four separate configurations of two-way service were developed, and each was analyzed for operations under future-year traffic demand. A one-way (no-build) scenario was also modeled for current and future years. By way of summary, the report concludes that the conversion of the existing one-way street grid system to the proposed two-way street grid system would operate at acceptable Levels of Service. There would be increases in congestion under each of the two-way systems, as well as varying degrees of loss of parking spaces, but the level of delay was found to be acceptable. Two-way operation could also enhance traffic flow between I-75 and downtown Dayton, and between US-35 and downtown Dayton. http://www.mvrpc.org/daytonGrid/

^ Yes, there is a circle on the northern end of Main St. I remember that town quite well back in the day. It was a HUGE weekend cruising strip back in the late 80's - early 90's.

^ LOL! I quoted myself :)

^ So are they Bengals a wildcard threat after winning that game?

^ The tool & die in Dayton is a slowley declining with the pullout and closing of many manufacturing plants in and around the area. Dayton abandoned the idea and went with a technical approach to boost the economy and help attract technical firms to the region.

Missed this by a couple of weeks, but I haven't seen it posted anywhere else. Looks like the project is gaining momentum. City, County to Accept Check for Tech Town Development Congressman Turner to Present Check Wednesday Release Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 Contact: City of Dayton, 333-3616; Montgomery County, 224-3831 Officials from the City of Dayton and Montgomery County will be accepting a $2.5 million check presented by U.S. Congressman Mike Turner to be used for redevelopment of the Tech Town site in downtown Dayton. Congressman Turner will present the check on Wednesday, October 27, 2004 at 1:00 p.m. on the grounds of the proposed Tech Town Campus near the intersection of Taylor Street & Monument Avenue (across the street from The Entrepreneurs Center, 714 E. Monument Ave.). The funds, provided by the Army Corps of Engineers, will be used for the design and construction of roadway, sewer and water infrastructure, including water supply lines, sewer lines, storm water control systems, surface water protection systems, and related underground utilities for Tech Town. Read More...