Edsiou

That's what I'd like to see. Plus it may entice drivers in the Northeastern area to take rail transit, since now they have to drive to the Windemere station, when its easier to just take 90. Might be VERY easy to do, at least from Collinwood to downtown. CSX has reduced use of the line next to I-90 to such an extent that Amtrak's two daily passenger trains outnumber CSX freight trains. Under federal law, CSX must maintain Amtrak-used tracks to the condition they were in when CSX acquired them, pay Amtrak a penalty, or pay any capital construction that will allow Amtrak to use an alternative route. So what speed is that track next to I-90 maintained for? 79 mph. Add a couple of low-cost station platforms, lease some train cars, secure an operating subsidy, and you've got yourself a commuter rail service from downtown to Collinwood. Assuming CSX will let you! Were would the stations be?

Please forgive but then again will you be scolding KJP "I'm always interested to read what's happening on other planets" on his personal attacks.

Just last night I saw german in for a convention in the university at the barking spider.If I rmember right 2 enginers and 3 MD's at the barking spider.Sixty percent of the time I am at the spider there are usually visiting foreigners there for conventions.Plus search out the omni hotel schedule. There is no Omni hotel in Cleveland - so searching for a schedule there would be impossible!!! I thought you "got my hint" in a previous message in this thread. What is your source of information?? Edsiou, I'm really trying to understand and respect your opinion, but what you write is so hard to decipher. In addition, you constantly list inaccurate information. Please read the post by TMH. Please forgive me the InterContinental hotel and convention center.Im Booking a trip and was actullay going to stay at the omni. TMH Post . Again you cant say that development could of happened with out these buildings. Indians could have moved,who cares about 26 millionaires who dont live in the city. Browns we owned the rights to the name,so Nance sold the city short.THe Arena,there was already talk to build an arena in the city.So that was going to happen eithier way. East 4th is a derevitive of the warehouse district. Flannery's and winking lizard. Each are 10 million dollar enterprises. I loved going to the Hay Market District,so I was disapponted about it

The problem is... Its an idea,how you produce an idea is a major key. Your a total sell-out to the ratner way of producing this idea,and I am not. SO while you follow ratner ideas,perhaps you shop at the dollar store at TC I am searching European and asian trade group that do medical conventions.

Just last night I saw germans in for a convention in the university circle.If I rmember right 2 enginers and 3 MD's at the barking spider.Sixty percent of the time I am at the spider there are usually visiting foreigners there for conventions. :wink2:

I got a question. Would this be viable for CVSR, Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century availability of capital to short line railroads for infrastructure investment If they could adapt the CVSR as a short line Rail road,then the federal goverment would kick in funding.

Not sure what study you're talking about. But just to humor you, it's not like there's been no changes in commuting patterns, rail traffic patterns, rail infrastructure, road infrastructure, land use patterns, population demographics, public policies and just about everything in the past 37 years. I always love reading your stuff Edsiou. I'm always interested to read what's happening on other planets. In 1980 there was suspose to be a 1% sales tax increase for train services like hub ohio is pushing for. We had the recession and that tax went to the general fund.THe whole study is in the library. Other planet. How silly. Then again working for a second rate newspaper.

Well lets see Cleveland clinic top five hospital and rainbow top 3 in children hospital. Few nations begging cleveland clinic to run hospitals in there countries.Medical hub we are. Now Warsaw indiana is a mecca for enginered artifical joints. I dont see them buidling a showroom for artificial joints. I would like to see 30 one million grants given to graduates of Cleveland Institute of art industrial design to built companies in a industrial design zone on superior ave. Now that would a economic boom.

when an industry is a) recession proof and b) currently 16% of the GDP and growing you don't ignore it. but the convention business is not recession proof..is IT? again, its 16% fucking percent of the GDP and predicted to be over 20% by the mid 2010s. We can't afford to sit idly by while you confuse the convention business with a medical mart. 1.4 billion dollars county budget and they cant budget 50 million for 10 years towards a convention center. Also I am not confusing it,you are. This is a total gimmick towards building a silly convention center.Ratner wants one so he can dump tower city.,and dimora wants one so he can name it after him. I could find 20 small international convention business who could do the same thing,that these medical mart people are doing. one more thing,out of 16% of GDP. how much is toward conventions,what 00001%?

this all about building a convention center,is it???

Come on...let's stop with the anecdotal comments and let's start with reality. Is the market for energy production a booming field? Yes....but to say that the medical field has peaked....that is ridiculous. Look at the market, look at the trends in demographic shifts, look at the percentage of our local economy that the Medical industry makes up and the surge in which that percentage has grown (in the past 4 years alone it has grown 25%!). Medicine and Medical Technology are not just the future, they are our present. Finally, instead of us continually looking to the day when we will have a strong industry again in Cleveland....we have one! And it isn't an industry that is doing well just in comparison to other cities of our size or of our region. Cleveland's Medical prowess competes on a global scale. This is an industry that TODAY, has put us on the world map! Royal families fly from around the globe to Cleveland for care. Doctors and industry professionals recognize Cleveland's a source of leading medical research. Companies recognize a fertile soil here in Cleveland to develop new medical technology and millions of dollars in investment is happening every year as a result. There is a reason that Merchandise Properties has invested over $500,000 to research the possibility of a Medical Mart here. They see the potential and they know the market. This isn't a "good Samaritan" gesture to a struggling city; this is a business investment in a thriving Medical Capital of the world. Here are some reasons that this project is perfect for us: The Economist Intelligence Unit posted a report on the top cities in the world for Business travel (http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/BUSINESS_TRIP_INDEX.pdf). They ranked 127 cities, worldwide. Cleveland was ranked 6....in the world. Why is this so import? People who attend medical conventions, unless you are a higher up doctor/surgeon, pay their own way to attend the convention. They need to for their constant training needs. Because of this, conventions try to locate places that have a lower cost for people to travel to. Considering Cleveland's affordability, its high ranking on the business travelers index, a medical mart that showcases that latest in medical technology and its reputation as a leader in Health Care.....what convention wouldn't want to locate here? This project is so much more about attracting a medical mart than it is about building a convention center. Medical Mart needs to have a convention facility because of the convention traffic they create. So really, what we are talking about is how badly to we want a major 100 million dollar company to move to Cleveland? A company that by itself will fill 800,000 sq ft. of one our city's signature buildings. A company that will draw tens of thousands of people down the newly created Euclid Corridor (driving economic investment along the corridor and renewing the energy of Cleveland's most cherished avenue). A company that is looking to create a medical mart that would create one of the only places in the WORLD where an individual can go see all the latest in medical technology, watch those devices be used in the top hospitals in the world, and purchase those devices to take back with them. Aside from the medical mart, the construction of a new convention center will allow us to draw in other conventions that typically locate out in the burbs...thus increasing the development and economic impact to Downtown. We would have a world class facility to attract events like the RNC and other major boosts to this city. Do i really need to go on? For a mere quarter of a percent raise in the sales tax...we are reaping so much more. As to where the convention center should be placed...it should be connected to Tower City and finally allow for the development along the Cuyahoga. In addition to the development this would bring to the Tower City side of the river....hopefully this would finally jump start the Ratners into developing Scranton Peninsula. It has sat vacant for far too long and it is time to move forward. You got to be friends with the Ratner's

when an industry is a) recession proof and b) currently 16% of the GDP and growing you don't ignore it. but the convention business is not recession proof..is IT?

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There was a study done in 1970 about building a train system in the state of ohio. Its in the main library. majorirty of the stuff you stated is in the book

THe medical field is at its peek.We have to figure the energy crisis that is right now in the for front of everything. There should be a building selling new energy devices not medical devices

IF you want to raise the tax,then use it for a Subway system.

Renovating the old convention center would bring in construction jobs. Remeber there are two hotels within the tower city complex. This going to a tower city center savior,and the ranters are going to profit from it. Hell why dont we just give him 50 million dollars to leave the city. Look you are all being brainwashed and Ranters are loving it.

I bet you know the greeter at steelyard commons walmart.

Thank you thankyou

If you have to the funds why not

Thats impossible and a flat out lie that the clinic host 40-50 conferences at the omni hotel! 10 Jobs? You said there are medical devices sales people are selling there wares to the clinic. That is just ONE segment of sales people COMING TO THE CLINIC. This facility would allow them to based their sales office and show room here. So in addition to those "sales" staff there would be wholesalers/retail product specialist here based in the building showroom (3 to 5 people per showroom X (I'm making this number up) 60 showrooms) 24/7. That means the clinic and other companies would do one stop shopping in the medical mart. Edisou, the staff that runs the new convention center would most likely run the new facility. If CC was smart they would roll the IX staff right into that and let them run the new larger facility. However, the Merchandise Mart would have its own management. Especially if the buildings are NOT connected. Now what building are you talking about? Public Hall or Higbees. Again, your employment numbers do not add up and I really think you do not understand the how the facility is to be used. Since your in women's apparel, have you ever been into a merchandise mart ?? No.I use the the internet.

I would like to kick this reporter in the ass. Internationaly there is more international money in the garden than the City coffer I bet.

More studies.THere goes more of my money. Hell I going to open a company that only does silly old studies.

Utopia!