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In the video, Debbie Donley, owner of Vocon Architects, describes it as a "truly iconic building." Give me a break.

This is great news, the chef comes with a great bio. Probably another gem in the Cleveland culinary scene.

Yup, doubt it happens. Just moving all that infrastructure would be a huge financial burden.

Thirsty Dog considers moving out of Akron By Rick Armon Published: June 19, 2014 Thirsty Dog Brewing Co. is outgrowing its current space in Akron and is exploring the possibility of moving — even taking its production brewery and tasting room to Medina County or Cuyahoga County. “I’d hate to leave this space at the end of the day, but I’ve got a business that’s growing and adding employees every month and I need to have the space to accommodate it all,” co-owner John Najeway said Thursday. “We’ve got to make a decision in the next couple of months.” Thirsty Dog is housed inside the former Burkhardt Brewing Co. on Grant Street near the University of Akron. http://www.ohio.com/news/thirsty-dog-considers-moving-out-of-akron-1.497279

I think it's possible to find enough young people seeking suburban jobs to make that a true statement. But I'm not forgetting anything. I reported what someone witnessed. Period. For someone my age (47), it's still astonishing for me to hear about young people enjoying a city and lamenting a suburb. Yet too many of the corporate chieftans who are older than me continue to make site selection decisions in ignorance of what young people prefer in their workplace setting. Or if they're not ignorant of those preferences, then the corporate big-wigs apparently think that somehow young people are delusional and will eventually come to their senses. That's a horrible way to attract talent. I think you missed my point, coming out of college now there is so much competition to find a job it doesn't matter where it's at. Live where you want, work where you can get a job.

Sure, to each their own, aesthetic is a personal opinion. One thing you can't argue though is that the contemporary design of MOCA, Uptown and the Med Mart (or whatever it's called) has put Cleveland on the cultural map partly due to their respective designs. That is one thing that developments like Alta House or Avenue District cannot say they've done.

One thing that designers often struggle with is why should they be relugated to designing to a lower aesthetic just because it's already built? Do you ever hear people say "well that's how we have always done it". Yes, that doesn't mean it's correct and/or proper.

The point was the OP stated they didn't want to sit on dumpsters, I was stating that people swim in them. If it's a comparison then the comparison was that they at one point existed.

Like I said, I was wondering where these types of comments were hiding. :wave: Yea, we would want to ruin the "architectural integrity" of the neighborhood.

Because in repeated studies of Millennials location decision-making, it's become almost stereotypical that the findings show many choose where to live first, then they find a job to support their decision. EDIT: I posted the Progressive information to support the prospective tenant issues related to the Public Square project. This latest conversation is not related to the Public Square project. If you want to discuss the marketability of the suburbs for job seekers without a correlation to a Public Square office building, we have other threads for that. I don't think anybody on here would debat that YP's and even Empty Nesters would rather live in urban areas. What I said was that the location of work does not always correlate to where people live, office jobs especially. I think you are also forgetting that we are in an economy that while bouncing back, jobs are still valued and sought after. We don't have the option to go wherever we want.

I would guess it's too "urban" for you? In New York City they have swimming pools in converted dumpsters. That is a bad example as those "pools" were temporary for a City Sponsored summer event on Park Ave. 4 years ago. Are these too not temporary like the CPLibrary reading garden and bookmobiles? I would hate to think the storefront signage is permanent and they have abandoned all hope of leasing the spaces. The point was the OP stated they didn't want to sit on dumpsters, I was stating that people swim in them. They were constructed then dismantled. In addition, these "pools" were only open for 4 hours, in mornings, on certain days. Please feel free to read my post that you responded to. That's why I put it there.

I would guess it's too "urban" for you? In New York City they have swimming pools in converted dumpsters. That is a bad example as those "pools" were temporary for a City Sponsored summer event on Park Ave. 4 years ago. Are these too not temporary like the CPLibrary reading garden and bookmobiles? I would hate to think the storefront signage is permanent and they have abandoned all hope of leasing the spaces. The point was the OP stated they didn't want to sit on dumpsters, I was stating that people swim in them.

I would guess it's too "urban" for you? In New York City they have swimming pools in converted dumpsters.

What people? All positive on here (and this is where it really counts :clap:).

How do you know this? Also, that's nothing that a nice salary can't cure for a young person. You don't have to live where there office is, in fact I would bet there are people that live Downtown and commute to the HQ. There's no argument that Progressive or even Eaton have done a disservice to their employees and community by their locations, but they also have a lot invested in those locations.

ThistleDown Racino staying put; relocation to Akron-Canton area nixed By Rick Armon Published: June 11, 2014 - 03:19 PM | Updated: June 12, 2014 - 01:36 PM ThistleDown Racino is staying put. Rock Ohio Caesars, a joint venture of Rock Gaming and Caesars Entertainment, announced Wednesday that the gambling parlor and thoroughbred track will remain in suburban Cleveland instead of moving south to the Akron-Canton area. http://www.ohio.com/news/break-news/thistledown-racino-staying-put-relocation-to-akron-canton-area-nixed-1.495087

Glad to see some contemporary love on the boards. Dimit better step it up on their multi-family housing. I could easily see Maschke putting some stake into their current lopsided market share and with the moves Maker is making, things could get real interesting in a good way.

What about the other renderings that followed it? The planters look nice, but will be collectors of garbage and cigarette butts. I like the idea of the Parkmobiles, but the locations on E. 5th of the Parkmobiles seem odd. Why would people want to sit there? Wouldn't these be better for Public Square being only temporary? The storefront improvements don't do anything for me. They are bright, but they look like MS clip art.

Yes, it did take years and it did happen. If the owner doesn't want to make it happen then there is nothing we can do about it, but to say that all the chips have to fall in the right place won't happen because of this is wrong.

With your logic the Flats East Bank would have never happened.

Yea, I really like it for a bar. I think it's a little confusing for coffee, IMO.

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We live in a climate that is very tough to maintain. A lot of building materials do not handle salt well and unfortunate we have become a society where everyone is scared to not put enough ice melting material down as to prevent being sued. Calcium Chloride should be used in almost all situations like this but I don't think it is widely known.

The latest plans for Kent State University's new architecture school building show a project still on track for excellence (slideshow) CLEVELAND, Ohio -- As the abundance of mediocre buildings in Cleveland and many other cities shows, it's really hard to produce great architecture. On the other hand, it's very easy to screw up at any point in a project, from selection of an architect to initial conception, detailed design and construction. Despite all these potential traps, Kent State University looks still very much on track to produce a 21st-century landmark in its new $43 million building for its College of Architecture and Environmental Design. http://www.cleveland.com/architecture/index.ssf/2014/05/the_latest_renderings_for_kent.html

Do you mean Akron or Northeast Ohio? Because enrollment is up at CSU and CWRU, with a major housing shortage at both campuses. And if Kent can't rebuild its downtown and expand the KSU campus to downtown Kent, Akron should be able to do at least as much. UA didn't come out of nowhere like CSU tho, whereas CWRU used urban design to boost its enrollment. Smallest freshman class ever pre-Uptown, largest ever post-Uptown, so those results speak for themselves (although no app fee helps those stats). CWRU competes nationally and saw a need to recreate an urban atmosphere more typical of Chicago or Philly just to compete with Nova, UPenn, Temple, Swarthmore, UChicago, Northwestern, etc etc. There's a synergy along Euclid Avenue that has been very good for the knowledge sector. I won't say it doesn't exist elsewhere in Ohio, but future growth prospects are different bc the potential is still so untapped. Akron will have to "suffer" from its stability. There are 600 new student units scheduled to come online in August this year near The University of Akron.