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My friends used to live in that turquoise duplex while they went to YSU! Wow that brought back memories. Great pictures, sorry to hear that the meet up was a flop.

I think part of the problem at the stadium during those 99-06 seasons is the Browns were so painful to watch most of the time. So instead of watcing endless 3 and outs people would continue to drink heavily on top of their tailgating buzz. I definately noticed the fans paying way more attention at the games I was at last year. I also think that 20 somethings (note I am 30 and was 21 for the 99 season) have heard way too many glorified stories about how "crazy" and "wild" Browns games used to be at the old muni stadium and think they have to live up to those stories. GO BROWNS!

Didn't they make a family friendly section last year where they did not even sell beer? Now granted getting into and out of the stadium without being offended/annoyed/amused by some plastered A-Hole is impossible.

About the only thing that could possiblly top that for a Redneck wedding would be to get married on the field of the grandstands in between rounds of a demolition derby at a county fairgrounds. Although I did make people stand at my wedding because it was a short 15 minute creremony in the Pavillion at the Rose garden in Millcreek Park in Y-town.

Of course the luck involved with the Baltimore game fieldgoal and that ridiculous time out on the fieldgoal at the Raiders probably canceled each other out last year... I am just thankful that they have enough depth at most positions (except possibly running back and d-back ) to be several injuries from melting down. That Stalworth pickup looks like genius now that Joe J. is on the PUP list. Overall I am just excited.

Call me unoriginal but i went with 10-6 based on how much more difficult their schedule is this year. I went down to the practice at the Stadium last Friday night and the offense looked really good, although Andersen still struggles with those short passes over the middle. His short outside passes and medium range looked much improved. The D-line did their drills right in front of us and I was thouroughly impressed with Rodgers. If it all holds together (read: Pass Defense) they can go 12-4 , 5-1 in the division. Of course 8-8 is always a possibility given how close and how lucky the Browns got last season in some of those games.

I'd be thrilled with a B+

Great thread. Below is my lunchtime run at work from my gym in DT Akron that I do at least once a week. I start up at the top of hill across from U of A and the run down to the towpath, run out about a mile and then turn around. It is about a 4 mile run. According to Gmaps it is about 250 ft of vertical and I can feel every foot of compared to running by my house. What kind of vertical are people seeing running the hills of Cincy? http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=2143881

Ok, besides the fact that the OC could possibly be a catalyst for development in the FT, I see this as mainly benefiting commuters from the westside and southside.The 10 minutes or 15 minutes that this would possibly save would not be an issue for someone going to UC to see a medical specialist or take a day trip to visit a musuem or go to a concert. However I think that if the OC was to cut 10 -15 minutes off the commute Lorain County or Summit County would look much more appealling on a day by day basis.

I guess I am against it at this time due to fears of a half developed EC and a half developed Medical Mile.

Is anybody drafting a response to the PD? I know that it would not get a half front page of a section but perhaps somebody would see it. I would do it my self but compared to the rest of the subject matter experts on the board I am a hack. I loved the part about thanks to the PD reviving the project ODOT is now looking at it.

Thanks for the links Mayday. I have only in the Cleveland area for about 5 years and really only closely following development projects for 2 or 3 years. I had no idea how bad that site was. Biz Biz, If you have room on your conspiracy bus I'll hop on too. The Cimperman fire timing has to be more than a coincidence

Well I passed all of those easily. I guess that I am not colorblind and that my wife and I just really do see the world differently. GoTribe, great story about the Bocce balls.

I just finished reading the PD piece on the Juvienial Justice Center, this a question for those in the know. Was the purchase of land from Forest City on the up and up? (As much as anything with Cuyahoga County can be)

I was giddy when i heard this yesterday. I wonder if the Feds are taking a sort of Al Capone tax evasion approach to this by throwing the maxium sentances for the low level bribery such as free work on the houses since they have covered their tracks better with the major bribery/graft/corruption.

Your Linguistic Profile: 70% General American English 10% Yankee 5% Dixie 5% Midwestern 0% Upper Midwestern No surprises here. What is the midwestern accent? Is that Kansas and the like? I don't know if this was brought up earlier in the thread but if you look on linguists map Pittsburgh has it's own dialect.

Solon maybe positioned well for the next couple of decades (and maybe indefinately for all that I know about the future) but things change as you mentioned above. What works today will probably will not work tommorow and there is no guaratee that the leaders of tomorrow willing to adjust. I just think that it is shortsighted to believe that the decline that has happened to Parma, Euclid, etc couldn't happen to Solon one day. Note: I am not ripping on Solon in anyway

I think that's called the Slavic Village aesthetic? ;);) But wow, I'm amazed by 1015! It looks beautiful and largely intact, and it's amazing how such a small (relative) change looks like it could brighten up that entire stretch of Euclid. Cleveland: We create beautiful historic facades on demand. Well I bet they are getting a pretty penny for scrapping all of that aluminum doing these restorations.

Bought on a foreclosure that was too good to pass up.

The stretch of Edgewater between the park and the towers. A bit of simplification, I know because I think the north-south streets do have side walks but I run back there fairly regularly and it struck me as odd that it doesn't have sidewalks... Actually I just did a MSN maps on the area. Parkside on the west has sidewalks and the the 3 furthest to the east due, but the 4 dead end streets between don't have sidewalks. This may be because they are or were private streets? Who knows. I just know that the situation existed. My friend just bought a house up there and he actually complained about the walkability compared to where I live in central Lakewood. That is why I thought of that example.

Take one step into SS&D's conference rooms in the Key Tower and you will know what I am talking about. Absolutely amazing views. Not that you can compare what Jacobs is planning to a 60 story tower, but impressive nonetheless. I used to work for a startup firm (that failed) that had space on the 50th floor of the Key Tower. I don't think there is any window above the 30th or 35th floor that doesn't have a breathtaking view. Our big conference room was in the NE corner with near floor to ceiling windows. Absolutely beautiful. I used to be able to look at the window from my desk onto the flats and the westside. Depressing, I am now at a different company in cube in the middle of my floor with no windows anywhere around(sigh) But back on topic, a building that is the right sized to get built is the most important thing.

Very nice.. thank god that it appears they didn't do much damage when they put up that facade which looks like the equivalent of a dropped tile ceiling. This makes me want to start ripping the aluminum siding off of my house to see what goodies lurk beneath.

Everbody just calm down. It is easier for everybody to speak in generalizations and exaggerations when they are trying to make a point. Nobody is personally attacking anybody else. There is a wide spectrum of what the terms city, suburb, exurb and rural means to a person depending on where they are from and what they have experienced. Let's all try and keep that in mind. Your burb may not be my burb. And even further than that keep in mind that just because a neighborhood is in the city, suburb or exurb doesn't neescarily mean that it has all of the characteristics of that stereotype because at one time these were all expansions out from the core city generally being built to make money for the people building the houses and buildings. Some are well planned and some aren't. Even in an Inner-ring Cleveland suburb like Lakewood there are some neighborhoods up by the lake that aren't very walkable due to the lack of sidewalks because were built at the turn of the century with what we consider exurbs planning today.Big houses on big lots.

Grew up in Lake Milton, OH which is a state park about halfway between Y-town and Akron.It is somewhere between being completely rural and a small town, plus we had the lake. Then I spent a year in Flint, MI for school (GMI) and then transfered to OU in Athens, OH. After graduation I spent a year in Columbus, living on the border of German Village and Meron Village. After that we moved to Lakewood and that is where I am still at three houses later.

There is so much I want to say about this thread right now that I don't even know where to start. Go Tribe, you obviously care about your kids, and I understand where you are coming from as a parent myself. I don't think that anybody is saying that people are wrong for not raising their children in high crime environment. No parent in their right mind wouldn't want something better for their kids if the couldn't play outside or had to be constantly weary of gunfire in their neighborhood. I am curious why you picked where you moved to and not to one of these cornfield developments that they have been throwing up in the counties surrounding the metro areas. I guess that I just want my kids to be safe, happy and have a realistic view of the world. It amazed me in college how many people had grown up in the stereotypical cul de sac and were completely naive and sheltered. I really think that their parents have done them a disservice. One of my problems with the exburbs are as follow, if you are going to live in the country, live in the country away from people not on a 1/4 or 1/2 acre lot in a cornfield with no trees surrounded by 30 other houses just like yours. You still have neighbors right next to you, so you can't have much more privacy than you would in the city. I don't understand that, if somebody can explain the appeal please do. I actually sort of understand the appeal of the McMansion exburbs on a golf course, but the run of the mill builder house on a smallish lot, I don't get.