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Good pivot on this subject thebillshark[/member] ! But doesn't this draw in the question of surface lots as well? What is your preference? Develop a surface lot or demo/redev the offending garages? Just to take an opposing view, I think the other end of DT needs what you are proposing more except with hotel. The P&G garage is not an eyesore or relic in the same way Pogue's, CinBell, and Federated garages are. Hotels would work great on these lots. Or, here's a crazy idea...convention expansion. Close 6th and expand north. No matter the case, the Federated Garage (7th/8th, Plum/Elm) is a complete insult to that block and the neighborhood. Demo the entire thing. Use the space between Wise and Presbyterian as a pocket park. The south half of the block for new garage and residential tower. Maybe, just maybe this could start to build momentum for W 9th and W Court over there since momentum already exists at the opposite end of town on Main and Sycamore. Below 6th near P&G is decidedly Financial District in nature and that garage definitely separates residential from it. The issue I have with that block is all of the surface lots that surround it that I'd rather see developed first. I'm curious to hear your more professional opinion.

You're putting way too much...uhm, engineering thought into this. It's not about brevity or syllables or characters. It's about creating a name or an identity. TBX wouldn't be said "TEE BEE EKS" anymore than someone says "OH BEE EKS" when they see OBX because it doesn't roll off the tongue. One would still say "The Banks" in the same way one knows what OTR means. People have naturally started to say "OH TEE ARR" or fully "Over the Rhine" but visually the letters OTR have become a de facto identity. Or take CVG for example. "SEE VEE GEE" is preferable over "The Cincinnati-Northern Kentucky International Airport" and so CVG it is in the local lexicon. But my point wasn't to argue letters, syllables, or for any name in particular. I just think UO is the source for a name with more affinity and flair than "The Streetcar".

God bless you for brainstorming alternate names but I'm not sure if TBX-OTR is the one :-P. Thanks for the good words. I'm trying and that is officially THE name until a better one evolves. TBX when you leave Findlay and head south. OTR when you leave GABP and head north. Maybe we do a MTA naming convention and gove it a number or letter with "The Banks to OTR" underneath.

Agreed. We really have a beige skyline. Another couple glass giants like GAT, Scripps, or a larger version of GE would go along way to making our beautiful skyline a modern looking beautiful skyline. Even a couple of reds like The Hyatt and Terrace would do a lot. Another thing, to the unfamiliar eye, TBX looks basically built out in these shots with the new garage veiling the surface lot. Rainforest would be nice. We need all we can get at TBX to appeal to families and amateur urbaneers.

Good ole boy network is all sour grapes. Don't hold your breath. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

These people actually do a better job than the opposition at clowning themselves. A pocket-park? They must've just picked up the latest field guide for crappy land use in a CBD. Wanna see a pocket park in action go here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/5th+St,+Cincinnati,+OH+45215/@39.100646,-84.5167169,3a,60y,169.69h,82.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sajE--o4mSGhfmdj0r_CM6Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x8840528243e557a3:0x31c983b3efbc9568!8m2!3d39.2226806!4d-84.4366712 or here: https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1014871,-84.5101518,3a,75y,171.95h,88.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sO9HIFbfTBIWmYozmgS0BMA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656 Spectacular!

^That or those neighborhood thugs found Jake and gave him the thump on his head they've been want to dole out for 20+ years. I keed. We love you Jake.

^So we're ahead of schedule. Great! I have this idea in my head that it would be great PR for the TBX-OTR to open a few weeks early to really make the time/budget naysayers look like fools.

Was it ever mentioned in this thread the inspiration of "Jack". Maybe I'm just slow on the uptake but it finally hit me that it could be for Jack Binion. Duh.

3. The current Owner, in their own words has stated they bought the property with the intention of major redevelopment, which is assumed would require a demolition of the building. This intention is contrary to the law governing the property, which is therefore not a reasonable-investment backed expectation. Read more: http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,22949.175.html#ixzz49UjXeMOh To me is the strongest of the points. Simply put, they've let the cat out of the bag and what they want to do is unlawful.

Mid-High rise development. Looks like to me the way the have the sketches oriented looking 3D to the south they are interested in making them with views. ???

Methinks this thread is a nerb hobby. :D

There's a curve at the end that doesn't look entirely natural. Magnetics or lasers may be involved. That's the Magnus Effect kicking in. The ball begins to rotate at the end. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/H9SF2YIKRY8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The one on I75 as well. All the local way finding signs will take a while. There are tons. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A shop on Fourth Street currently has them for sale. I just went by earlier. Forget which shop it is.

I think those same props are in "What Women Want" Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Is there online access to ODOTs drawing archive?

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Yeah right. I'll only believe it when the building is up and they're selling their first avocado. I'm getting pretty tired of the last decade+ of grocery rumors that end in nothing. Fre Sha vaca do!

Another view, perhaps the best to get a feel for the location of the windows:

Thank you, Cincinnati Streetcar!

That building has always stuck out to me as well because of the deplorable addition. The entire building, while not looking like it is beyond saving, has that look of needing some real structural vigilance. Wonder what it's history is.

^Is Luda that affluent? Bet he ends up like Hammer.

^Well played. I'm wondering why this person ins't arrested for trespassing. Heavy-handed, I know but why should the story be about it being left unattended when the actual "crime" is that she entered a streetcar clearly marked with signs prohibiting it.

Reading through http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,24618.350.html it seems like once the Lytle tunnels are done there could be a couple towers. Residential at 3rd/Broadway. HQ at 4th/Broadway.