cincydrewinclifton

asta la vista 20th century highway follies. you are out.

we should just do everthing in our power as a city to hinder development of future highways so when they get recockulously crowded people have to start building trains systems back up.

is this dialouge some kind of plug for a camera company?

personally I like the section of the green thats completed already more than easton because it doesnt feel "disneylike" at all it feels like a real town. I think once that is complete its going to be the best example of an outdoor mall in ohio. we need to put something like that in the crappy old lots over by union terminal...I think it would tie together downtown with the terminal really well.

about the above comment regarding ruehl/abercrombie...I'm a manager at hollister (another abercrombie brand) and abercrombie and its affiliated brands are not part of the limited. they havent been for years. just fyi. they're owned by mike jefferies the president of the company.

if that happens Id hope they would sue the managment and break lease based on this forcing the bartlett management to foreclose and the building could be developed after all meaning everyone except the poor management would win...thats teach the rat bastards

our economy may very well be working in favor of businesses like bowling which is relatively cheap for a group of friends to pass time with and can make a killing on any connected business like alcohol sales or vending. personally I like madison bowl but hey good for western!

I think the two towers connected by a skywalk would be a bit redundant that close to p&g

I've always thought they need to widen the streets there...it would be a shame if they had to destroy city link in the process by eminent domain for road building ;) who wants to get a truck and some equipment and dress up like the city? thats what the boss would have done back in the day.

put the clockon the carew...its flat enough on top

I remember from working in eastgate while living downtown for a few months that almost all traffic coming and going from 471 eventually meets up in the eastgate/milford area. it wasn't uncommon for an entire group of cars to ride close all the way there or back almost every day. I always got the impression that this project was to address this and give people an alternative to sitting in the traffic jam that occurs on the big mac bridge at peak times. shoot, I'd have taken a train instead of putting up with that headache. and the cincinnati portsmouth rail study found that while a cinti-portsmouth line wasnt useful the numbers did infact support a need in the cincinnati metro area. if I have to go with numbers I'm going with the dept. of transportations as most reliable. the eastern corridor study found the same thing after all. so why are they still talking and not acting? my bets on money. under fundeing of rail initiatives strikes again. :shoot:

does anybody have news on this/ its possibly my favorite cincinnati project and info is sparse only occuring every six months or so always about "studies to further the planning" :cry: I want digging darnit :evil:

now if we can get broadway tower, fifth and race, one river plaza and the brent spence bridge replacement a'diggin' this place will look like dubai with all the construction (but with more trees obviously). this is amazing.

"I have not been a Ham Cty Fair goer in the past but could this be done here or am I off my rocker? http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,16838.0.html" lol have you ever been to a county fair at all? well remember the smell of pig poop and dirty sheep everywhere...you want the banks to smell like that when a riverfront wind sweeps it up into downtown? lol...just askin'

this is what happens when you get a mayor and city manager who are serious about taking charge and getting larger projects done...tenanats start popping up like weeds downtown...they need to run for pres and vice...they can run as charterites lol.

was the late princess diana obese and just filmed well? cause....

how is playhouse of all people going to get the funding to build on real estate like that?! this is awful, they're just going to stick some second rate theatre attractions there to poorly compete with all the others downtown and fail miserably leaving more empty unused rooms in our downtown.

I seriously have to think that at some point in the 1930's a bunch of people discussed how the architecture of their day was so hideous and they should make a development look more like something from 1880. and someday people will be saying. "oh my god this carbon molecule sided titanium tower is so uncool, why cant buildings look more like they did in the 00's when the banks was built?!" personally I like them. they are what they are...something besides a mudhole. also to the comment about wide streets being too suburban I'm not so sure that is true. columbus's downtown doesnt feel suburban and they have streets like twice as wide as ours.

so why is all of our industry along millcreek anyway? is it so they can wash toxic waste easliy away from their companies jk. I'm assuming theres some reason why the county built it that way to allow easily accesible water for the industries to access for free straight from the creek for industrial reasons? never thought about it beofre till now, who has some answers

off topic: 13 stars is not 12, flipping vague shapes on two axes to spell 666 and calling hair and a beard horns are ridiculous interpretations. I hate stupid people :x on topic. ummm we get a new skyscraper....who cares if its not what we thought it would be originally its awesome.

"uncle oneglove"...that sounds like a child molester lol. I really think the riverfront park will provide more than adequate greenspace. I say up the price on the caps a little for a return investment on higher density...of course thats just me speculating at what would succeed since I don't really have access to city budgets and economic returns on real estate on the riverfront but I know as a citizen that I think it would show more character and regional appeal if we fit as much into a walkable area as possible. if we want to get people downtown we have to maximize how much we have to offer per unit of area...remember these suburbanites are often people who detest walking more than the size of one of their malls. then the streetcar will allow more walkable units to be spurred from this. I say bury 71 all the way back to broadway commons and cap it all haha. caps all around! (but ones that dont collapse like bostons.

the enquirer just likes to b*tch. maybe we should just write letters complaining that we don't have a streetcar and what a horrible city that makes cincinnati then they would publish it.

*crazy libertarian speak warning* if all cincinnati schools went voucher with a uniform cap on cost this wouldn't even be an issue. even a small revenue would allow for the deficit to be payed by cps and the cap would insure some schools don't excel while others fail...it would create healthy competition while still paying into a common system so market forces and subsidization meet in the perfect balance insuring the possibility of a good education for all. it would be fueled by the rich paying for unnecessary perks for their kids that they allow at some schools while most would say "pff thats wasteful" and then the cps debt would decrease so they could afford to invest in these properties for future use or redevelopment for future resale value. at least in principal, I may try to find actual numbers to illustrate my point if I can find info on the property values and cps assets but that may take a few days to dig up on the net.

mr witte is right. we should just bulldoze downtown and otr all together. that way our historical center would be destroyed so all those out of town hacks can't enjoy our urban core where all the city's heritage lies. walnut hills and mt adam are probably too close to central as well. lets tear those down too. so visitors can go see burb like neighborhoods cause those aren't comon in america at all. *end sarcasm* the outside dollar spent in this city filters into our economy based on the strength of our central business district which is a neccesity. those same people would complain if we started building highrises in their neighborhoods but the infrastructure of our urban core is so vital. people who fail to see this piss me off. they might as well follow their argument through to its extreme and eliminate support to their own neighborhood business district like oakley square or the intersection of ridge and montgomery or the wendys and bmv in price hill lol. lets just make our city a homogenous mix of big business and suburbia!!! oops that was more sarcasm. I wonder how many of these people will have children someday who will want to attend scpa or art academy or how many would want that rush hour traffic coming up their street instead of into downtown which they are 10 minutes away from accesing and even closer if they would just vote yes on projects like metro moves instead of shooting down the best thing that ever could have happened to this town. the only downfall of having so many neighborhoods in our city is that people take pride in their community but NOT in their city. yet if asked by somebody in another state "where do you live" they would say cincinnati even though they take no pride in cincinnati...its shameful.

considering its 30 feet wide and over 2/3rds of the way complete probably not to mention its probably owned by the city since it was out of use before the amtrak/conrail deals giving them the national rails (except the one owned by a certain city to be the one and only city to own a railroad...go us yet again in history :wink: ) but while i'm not familiar with the engineering and would be a tool if I pretended to be I'd imagine it would be less costly to reinforce an exsisting structure than dig a new one. maybe they planned to all along and pretend they had done it all and then say "hey look what we accomplished" lol