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I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. The traffic in West Chester is just as bad, if not worse, that it is in Cincinnati, and there aren't nearly as many things to do. Aside from Kings Island, and Fields Ertel, there isn't much going on there. It's just mostly overpriced suburban subdivisions. And the only way I would go to Kenwood, is if I wanted to pay $40 for a T-shirt. These places are nothing more than big suburbs. They do not have art centers, museums, sports teams, historical sights, or the overall diversity that Downtown Cincinnati offers. I have a lot of friends from Mason, and one from West Chester. They all work in Cincinnati, and most of the bars and restaurants we frequent are in downtown because it's centrally located and there are tons of places we can go. I just read in the paper yesterday that the Banks project has preliminary plans in place, even though they won't share the plans with the public. But that's understandable considering the blue prints are still owned by the developers. I'm holding my breath, but it looks like the Banks is finally going to happen. On an aside....yes the enquirer will call you if they print anything, and for whatever reason, they always want a picture.

I don't like the Patriot Act at all. It was pushed on the American people during a time of weakness and intense passion. Spying on Americans is reprehensible no matter what the situation is. Gov't secrecy is a threat to democracy! *slams fist on table* LOL....Couldn't put it better myself.

Thanks for the correction.

I don't like the Patriot Act at all. It was pushed on the American people during a time of weakness and intense passion. Spying on Americans is reprehensible no matter what the situation is.

Sorry I haven't posted recently, I've been really busy and I'm getting ready to leave for vacation, but I will repost when I get back. I just want to leave you with one thought real quick. Although I don't remember who said it, I will quote them properly when I have time. "Those who are willing to give up a little liberty for a little security...deserve neither."

And I am a Republican who is for what is right and sometimes it flows back and forth from individual to societal depending on the given topic. Easier said than done sometimes, I agree with your point however, whenever possible. Yet you asked some and they would say to not live in a "questionable" neighborhood would remove you from that positition. So because I do not wish this to be the only option, I would also like to entertain both precautionary as well as deterrent measures. Very well said. I couldn't agree more.

Huh....I guess that was a factual and accurate statement, rather than a typical generalization of what socialism is. Sorry let be a little more specific on what socialism is...you're being awfully defensive and sensitive all of a sudden. What...did I strike a nerve or something??? so·cial·ism Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[soh-shuh-liz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. Quoted from Dictionary.Com Yep that seems to fit your community and social good ideals pretty well. Am I wrong???

I don't believe I've once "flavorfully name called or generalized" on this topic.

agreed but let me throw in one more thing. I am an advocate of choice. And even after everything I have said and truly believe on the subject, neither my wife nor myself have chosen to have a conceal and carry(watch, now I will get robbed) and most people do not, but I support others right to do so. and let me clarify then that I am an advocate for the greater social good. This can be hazy at times, but I consider myself a Democrat who is not always for individual rights. I put the society before the individual almost 100% of the time. You can call me a 'Classical Republicanist'. :speech: And I'm for freedom and the power of choice. I do not need nor should I have to put up with the government dictating my life. That would be called socialism. Social good at the expense of choice or individual rights violates the very foundation that this nation was founded on.

Why do you think that crime is going down in OTR. Do you have examples of what they have done in that community to bring down crime. If you do please share them in this forum, and hopefully those same ideas and examples can be used throughout Cincinnati and that would be a huge step towards getting people back to the city.

Thank you for speaking up. That is very sad what happened to that couple, and I hope that they are able to get through it and return to living a normal life. Give them my best wishes.

Personally I'm not a big fan of the general public taking the law into their own hands. That can get out of control VERY quickly. If you notice, a couple of months ago one man shot an intruder/robber...then you immediately heard of another couple similar occurrences. All of a sudden you have people thinking they can take the law into their own hands and thats even MORE dangerous in my opinion. There is no perfect solution to this problem, but I don't think that allowing more people to carry guns (and guns made for killing people at that) is the right solution. By doing that you are just increasing the odds that people use those guns...and there is then an increased possibility that they will use them inappropriately. More violence does not fix/cure an existing problem of violence. That's not taking the law into your own hands Rando...that's called self-defense, and the law allows it. Vigilante justice or taking the law into your own hands would be like going out on your own and killing someone that did something to you or a friend or familty matter. Or going out and trying to bring criminals into jails without actually being a member of law enforcement. This type of justice I do not agree with at all. However, using a gun in self-defense to protect your self and your family is something that this country needs. You left out the part about the guy being hit in the head with a tire iron twice in the head before he shot the intruder. Take the gun out of that man's hands, and he is now the one in the morgue instead of the robber who broke into his home. Is that what you want?

So basically what you are saying is you get to enjoy all of the amenities of a major city without taking any responsibility for the health and safety of the community. If you want to select that one little piece out of everything I said and then spin it to sound like that I guess that is your prerogative. Actually, I work in the city of Cincinnati, and my income taxes do help pay for facilities and personnel in the city...so no actually your wrong. I agree with you completely on everything you just said about the city. I don't understand why people think I'm bashing the city and I hate the city, or I'm kicking it on the way out or whatever else people are saying. I've said repeatedly in my posts that I love the city of Cincinnati. All I've done is voiced my opinions on some of the problems I have seen with the city and it leaders. That's all. People in here are acting as if you can't bring up problems if you don't love the city and that just simply is not the case. I can't wait for Cincinnati to be a vibrant city that we can all be proud of. But we won't get there if we don't realize that there are problems and try to correct them.

ROFLMAO....I guess if you wanted to make a mess that will definitely do the job. look its dark, you are awakened in the middle of the night, your aim isn't going to be great, and the rounds probably won't penetrate multiple walls and accidentally kill you sleeping family. I have no problem with long arms, they fall under the second amendment, (millitia don't fight with pistols) you can't conceal a rifle, walking down the street with one is obvious. Look at switzerland, many rifles, little crime. United States many handguns, lots of crime. That's one of the most ignorant, idiotic, outlandish arguments I've ever heard. Yeah, familty values, judicial system, government, and community have absolutely nothing to do with crime in Switzerland, just the length of the barrel on the gun the people there own. You know what? I'm going to take your argument one step further using a very sensitive subject, just to shed some light on the absurdity of the argument you just tried to use. By your logic then black people are the reason for crime. Look at Switzerland...very few black people...little crime. Look at the United States.....lots of black people.....lots of crime. You're going to have to do a lot better than that buddy. :wave:

They already do have that in the judicial system...it's called a gun specification charge. I'm not saying that efforts to reduce crime are futile. I'm just saying this one is. Let's think about this logically and do a little role play. I'm a robber and you're a citizen of Cincinnati out on a weeknight stroll. Now...if handguns are illegal and I want to rob you, then I know that there is now way you have a gun hidden on you somewhere and I can come up and rob you at will. If you decide to resist, I might just go ahead and shoot you with the gun I carry illegally, or cut you, or just beat the crap out of you. However, if handguns are legalized and you carry a permit for that weapon, then I now have to make a decision. Do I risk trying to rob you knowing that you could have a gun and kill me, or do I just walk the other way. Let's say I do try to rob you. I come up to you and demand your wallet. You try to protect your property and your life by refusing, and you pull a gun on me. You just saved yourself from a robbery and possible saved your life because you had the option of using that gun. Now, I ask this question. Both scenarios suck I know that, but I would rather have the choice of protecting myself than no chance at all. Don't you agree. ;)