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Hey guys- I was wondering what the options are for public transport from the w6-w9 area over to clev clinic/UH/Case I remember hearing theres a Rail line going directly to Shaker Heights, but not sure about rail directly to the University campus Thanks

oh ok- that does make sense as its on the lake and more east side than pinnacle personally I prefer the panoramic glass design that the Pinnacle/Stonebridge have going on

Hey- I'm pretty new to the area and I was wondering if anything knew about any developments/projects of luxury highrises with penthouses I know about the Pinnacle and also about the new ones going up- Avenue and the one around w20s/washington blvd But I was talking to a friend who was telling me about this other development(2-4 years old) where all the bigwigs are (lebron/ceo's etc) I assumed they were talking about the Pinnacle, but the way he was describing it- it seemed like there was another highrise development on the lake, and i think he said before cleveland browns stadium coming from the east side suburbs + by e55ish? I couldnt find anything anywhere else- I'd like to check them out (not for buying- just for architecture's sake) or was he just very confused?

thanks for the great info- And yeah- I do expect the typical "city safety" issues, but I agree with you blinker that the perceived safety of a given area makes a big difference- and that's why the WHD and surrounding areas are more my thing regardless, it seems like there are certainly a lot of options in the downtown area another bonus is the potential appreciation of some of these properties (at least I perceive it that way)- I know there won't be a huge boom, but there's more potential than the "inner-suburb rings" I'm going to check out the Warehouse District and surrounding areas this weekend and see how they stack up with Battery Park and hopefully have a decision by early next week

well, the good news is I found an area I think I would like the best... the bad news is- it's W Lakeside ave and is way out of my price range At this point I'm going to look into newer condos in the w 9- e 6th range and compare to Battery Park and hopefully get the ball rolling soon

well- I'm from suburban LI and my experience with city living has been Manhattan where I never felt unsafe even at 4am... I guess my "fears" come from the fact that I'm not really experienced at all with the area- so I don't really know how to balance the downtown lifestyle with the specific surrounding areas- I have noticed a trend where I'll be in what I feel is a cool area, walk like 1-2 blocks and be in an area where I'd never go alone In that sense- if I were to do downtown i would def prefer to be in the more traditional metro areas something like in nyc- east side (20-70) or DC (Northern VA, Chinatown, etc) The area by Cleveland Browns Stadium down Ontario/E9th (I think..) seems like an area where I'd say yeah its downtown, but I don't feel "unsafe"

thanks for the input guys- I think I'm going to check out the Stonebridge condos as well- there seem to be some really reasonably priced suites available and it reminds me of the more "traditional" downtown setting I've pretty much scratched Lakewood off the list bc if you take into account tax abatement/lending rebates(on some) and maintenance fees- you can prob go for a house thats 100k+ more than the Lakewood market I wasn't really planning on living in downtown when I started the search but it seems theres def quality living available with relatively little risk The only thing that would make me hesitant is, again the safety issue- but that's somethign I'll have to figure out for myself

ok- I really liked Battery Park but, I'll be honest- the surrounding area did make me paranoid- I never got a bad feeling from Cleveland/Shaker Heights or Lakewood about the safety of the surrounding area, but everything south of Battery Park(including the parts of Detroit that I saw) left a bad impression on me Including large stretches west before Lakewood It didn't help that in one of the threads on these forums, there were apparently 3 homicides within 2 blocks...and about 3-4 within a few blocks... Any thoughts?

so wait- they're converting the west shoreway and leaving east intact? I'd imagine a 3 mile stretch should just about take you past Browns stadium I'm wondering how that would affect my commute I'm checking out the area tomorrow so I should have a better idea of what Battery Park is all about

Re: Battery Park/Detroit Shoreway How is the area there safety wise? surrounding areas? How are the retail options? (coffee shops/places to chill) Are they easy to access? (walkability) How does the area compare to the Warehouse District (Condos that are promising- but seems like theres too much "hustle and bustle" and noise there at times/nights)

just to confirm (b/c the website doesn't contain specific info)- the Battery Park is between 73-76 street, by Detroit Rd? I'm also planning on checking out the Larchmere lofts/townhomes this weekend

hmm...I searched for more info online and on these forums but I can't seem to find any availability/progress I contacted through their website so maybe I'll hear back soon How does this area compare to Lakewood and Shaker Heights? I'll try to do a drive-by on Saturday

thanks for the responses- hmm...so Shaker square is different- what complexes are out there? are they relatively new? I'm looking for a condo suite that is pretty modern- do any of the other areas u mentioned meet those criteria? I was REALLY feeling the drive down Fairmount Blvd, but it seemed like mostly stand alone houses just to clarify on the appreciation front: I realize that Cleveland isn't a real estate mecca, and I'm not necessarily looking to find the next hidden gem But I also don't want to end up in a mess down the road...I'd much rather prefer stable property values (which it would seem lakewood would be) so basically I'm more worried about avoiding potential "risks" rather than finding potential "rewards"

thanks for the replies- I appreciate the input For some background I'm coming from suburban Long Island and I have extensive experience in NYC (although I've never actually lived there)...and by NYC I mean Manhattan.. what I'm looking for is an area thats not dead...where I can come home from work and with the (limited) free time I have be able to go to a bookstore/coffee shop and read for a bit..or go to the park for a jog...and follow that up with a quick stop at the killer sandwich shop...and as far as partying/clubbing- I'm not that much of a partyer anymore, more occasional- I much rather prefer eating out at a nice restaurant, or spending the weekend walking around maybe shopping or just checkin out the sights I guess I exaggerated my safety concerns a little bit- I like to think I'm pretty street smart, and I'm not that small of a guy :wink: What I was more paranoid about was little things-like being able to park my car without worrying about it, or running out at night to grab something at Heinen's without having to look over my shoulder, etc.. I'm probably leaning Lakewood vs Shaker Heights- What I meant about my perception of Lakewood appreciation was that it seems I can get a pretty solid renovated 2 br/2ba highrise condo for 120k-180k with a lake view...It just seems to me that a property like that won't end up depreciating and at the very least stabilize so that I break relatively even As far as Avalon goes- the units I would want are priced at about 230-240 so that is def reasonable- my perception of the Shaker outlook is that it has the best potential to appreciate...would it end up being about 12-15 min? (bc I HATE stop and go traffic) The Cleveland Heights property is the priciest and also the least attractive area imo- at least until u get to coventry/murray hill I did consider downtown, but I just think it would end up being a hassle for me ( I'd like visiting downtown, but not living)

Hey guys- some great info on these forums that has helped me a lot I'm going to be starting at the Clinic and am looking to buy a place- Price isn't necessarily an issue up to 300k assuming it's a sound real estate investment- I'll be staying for 6 years I've narrowed it down to the following areas but don't have much in depth "insider" knowledge: Cleveland Heights- New construction across from Severance Circle= Bluestone- I really liked these ones but my concerns are the following: the neighborhood and safety; also these are the priciest of what I'm looking at and I don't have a lot of confidence in the housing market, so I'm thinking maybe buy into something a little less expensive Shaker Heights- New construction near Shaker Square= Avalon Lofts- Seems like a really cool place once it'll all be done, and the surrounding area seems nice- Again my concerns are: safety and the surrounding neighborhood as well as the market forecast From these 2 I have more faith in the Shaker market Lakewood- This is where I'm leaning now because I found a lot of really nicely priced condos in highrises along the Gold Coast as well as close to the Rocky River border- Plus just driving around town I was really feeling the vibe I got; The areas around where I'm looking didn't seem that safety would be a real issue The one issue where I do feel Lakewood has the advantage (from an outsiders perspective) is the housing stability- mainly bc it is a lower risk investment at these prices and with the Lake views I'm hoping that at the very least I break even, whereas in Shaker/Cleveland I feel theres a real chance I could be in a messy situation down the road.. My potential concerns with Lakewood would be the commute- I would prob be heading to work really early (6-6:30ish) so I don't think that would be a problem... How is Chester Ave in the morning? MLK? The afternoon commute I could avoid most days just by studying a little bit extra at the Clinic to let rush hour die down- plus I would rather commute 20 minutes on the highway (lakewood) vs 12-15 on local roads (Shaker- is this accurate?) I'd appreciate anybodys thoughts- especially on the safety issues for the specific areas (gold coast/shaker square/severance circle) and opinions/experience about the housing market + forecast Also if there are any other areas that you guys think I would like- (urban feel with suburban convenience- safe areas- commute up to 20 if highway, 15 if not) Thanks