neilworms

Yeah I think your right about the old school elite areas (and nearby) of Cincinnati having teardowns, though when I'm in town I don't notice as many proportionally as I have in Chicagoland's comparable areas. Columbia Tusculum is probably the neighborhood that has the worst infill vs what was orginally there, I still can't believe the community/council allowed a crummy mcmansion to be built right next to where its well known (by cincy standards) painted lady row is on Tusculum... Btw 2 apartments ago for me was a teardown - it was in Wicker Park, which is probably 3rd wave gentrification right now, its starting to feel a lot like Lincoln Park these days. It kind of sucked because it was the nicest workers cottage on the block, built right in 1900 with a few extra details on it. It was replaced by a large mansion, which looks great as far as modern infill goes but I'm still sad the old building is gone. (though I am happy for the landlord who was a really nice guy who deserved a good retirement I'm sure he cashed out big).

Its not always a tear down (SF for instance doesn't really allow those to happen so older buildings are constantly renovated with higher and higher end features), though tear downs are a lot more common when richer people move in (though their are exceptions like mid-century north side Chicago suburbs where people don't like the ranch houses and replace them with McMansions).

After cruising on reddit I'm geniunely concerned about Yvette. She's doing too many weird things and may put off people that would otherwise consider voting for her. I'm also concerned that Richardson running will spoil her chances of even getting in at this rate. She has a long uphill battle. I'm getting a bad feeling you guys are going to have 4 more years of Cranley :/

SW Ohio is missing out on so much latino culture its not even funny. First time I heard bodega used was by a guy I knew who worked in LA for many years then moved back to Cincy (when I was in college) due to sustaining injuries that made him less able to work. thats because you are in sw ohio. bodegas started when latinos from the islands moved to the states. we have them in lorain and cleveland too. bodegas have staples, quick grab stuff like sodas/beer, sandwiches and brain frying coffee always made with bustelo and steamed milk. and a cat. always a cat. don gato watches over the place. My favorite bodegas are the ones (though I think this is strictly a Chicago thing) where they also cook food on site in the store. Most of the affluent north side doesn't have easy access to these but they are pretty awesome for great cheap greasy food along with toiletries and bread/tortillas and milk.

Its near-loop (but not like the hottest areas near the loop) Chicago level prices. Cincinnatians are only freaking out because the previous mayor did changed the way things were done and actually made the city advance after a very long run of being managed by really terrible leadership which generated an increadible complacency in mediocrity and lack of change, even positive change is shunned as negative. You want a good idea of how Cincinnati works, look at the bullshit surrounding the Dennison. These anti-gentrification types in Cincinnati are just as conservative as the suburbanites who comment on the enquirer, they want to maintain the old/broken way of doing things in Cincinnati because positive change is scary. Gentrification narratives from the coasts are convenient scapegoats for them to mask that parochial conservatism and appear to be more progressive than they actually are. Chicago hasn't gotten a blue bottle yet. Coastal elites want to go to europe or asia before going to Chicago :/. (Even though in a lot of ways the North/near loop areas of Chicago is more like them than the rest of the midwest). Chicagoans still have a chip on their shoulder due to this too, though I usually get furious with natives and tell them they have way more trendy cultural stuff (movies, concerts, trendy international food chains) than the rest of the midwest ever gets and to quit whining. ;) At the last MPMF that was worth going to (old Cincinnati found a way to ruin that too - I guess this is why I've been pretty dour on Cincy lately, the old ways are creeping back in after a very off script burst of new awesomeness, if Yvette looses the election then Mallory may have just been an odd but good blip.) I randomly met a guy who was a cincy native, who then lived in the Bay, got priced out, went to Chicago, had kids reach high school age (where school gets a lot more difficult in Chicago to pull off) then move to OTR. He worked at Salesforce making a Bay area salary. He could easily afford to send his kids to private school and live like a king in Cincy. Only folks who know about Cincinnati are natives (or oddball Daytonians like myself though the two cities are joined pretty much), not even Chicago knows about how much of a gem OTR is because Cincinnatians are terribly bashful people, Chicagoans look down on most other midwest cities, and the Coasts don't give a darn / are scared of the middle of the country even Chicago. (re-blue bottle) Btw my biggest pet peeve with coastal stereotypes of Chicago is that its somehow quintessentially Midwestern - in spite of the much better developed transit system, generally more progressive politics and way greater diversity. Its an outlier in many many respects with only Minneapolis being similar in those ways (though per-capita its more prosperous and its transit is good but not as good as Chicagos).

^-Sadly probably wouldn't be allowed with Cincinnati's dumb sign laws :(

Cincinnatians need to learn a term, Greystone - any old building with an Indiana limestone facade. All of these buildings are called that in Chicago. The quarries that the stone is mined from is in South Central Indiana too, which would have been cheaper to transport to Cincinnati even... As I've brought up before, Cincinnati actually has one that was built most likely before most in Chicago with a more NYC look to it (though NYCs would be brown due to different types of rock in the area) that is literally called "Brownstone Apartments" https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/OTR-Italianate-brownstone.jpg Actual brownstone for comparison: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/03/8b/43/038b437a654ac521ff496faf516b5507.jpg Older Chicago greystones: https://photos.zillowstatic.com/p_f/IS2r167m7bs1wl0000000000.jpg Found this as well: http://www.curbed.com/2016/6/2/11833698/brownstone-greystone-chicago-new-york-city

I'll have to check it out. I prefer open later instead of earlier (I was spoiled by the Highland in Cincinnati). My fave that has bad hours is Sip, its such a cozy spot (though its closed by like 6pm :/).

With those kinds of prices the Josephs should continue to be ashamed of themselves for tearing down the Dennison... so much lost money for them by making a bet on something that might not happen...

I think its beyond bad, its inexcusable. Every other city in the US that has that level of cultural treasure is proud as hell of it and wants everyone else to know about it.

Does the coffee shop at the amazon store keep good hours? Or do they do Chicago hours and close at like 2pm, like 90% of all cafes do here.

They even have wifi, you can use it as a cafe (which I do when I'm in town and working remotely).

It really is - its so depressing to walk down when you've been to San Francisco and seen similar scaled/ornate architecture full of residential and commercial. I feel like other cities would view a street like this as an asset, but in Cincinnati the attitude of too many people is meh its old... ugh.

IMO some of the issue may be that Cincy has so many old dense underutalized buildings. Its not fast enough but a lot of development that would be low rise new urbanist boxes in other midsized cities are renovated tenement buildings in OTR. Whenever I pass through Indy on the megabus I have that thought as I've seen about 10 blocks of parking lots turned into these sorts of developments... Still is extremely frustrating to see buildings like the Dennison torn down in this sort of environment, I do feel old money is holding Cincinnati back to some extent - here's hoping Cranley is thrown out of office.

MPMF opened it up one year if you remember (it was a bit worn down but a beautiful space and the acoustics were amazing), then the powers that be in Cincinnati probably said this is too cool and killed it because that's how they roll, lol.

I still want to know what the hell the real story is behind the Emery Theater. Everything about that was fishy.

Some people have no taste...

Not surprised on that. Its also pretty consistent with her DIRECTLY addressing the riots even if its years later. (Again something Qualls should have done first thing in her race).

Seems like a very odd thing for her to do if she's supposed to be the champion of the urban core... Maybe making an appeal to socially conservative african american voters? She already knows she has the urban core, she has to convince the AA vote who was taken by Cranley in the last election. People forget that much of the AA community is socially conservative...

^-Everything Qualls should have attacked that little POS for. Go Yvette!

The Joseph's are so blind to the business opportunities they are missing its not even funny. They could have prevented both a PR disaster and made money doing it by redeveloping the darn thing.

Didn't help that the museum had a racist smear campaign by the enquirer either. Local Cincinnatians hate the place but non natives highly recommend it.

He did steal credit for redbike, and I'm sure under mallory the locations would have been better...

The Josephs prove the old Mark Twain rumored quote true (even if it was never said) and then some. They are acting like leaders from the 1960s.

The stuff that Barett is saying is so crazy, like seriously you think you'd get negative reaction from tearing down a large old orante building that you can't find in most cities? What universe do these people live in?