neilworms

Was going to post yesterday but I fell asleep super early. Here's what the basin looks like (though I've filled in a bit more since then): My weird hacky attempt at recreating the Torrence road station on the little miami PRR rail is here I took a building from spain that looked kind of roman and smashed it with a fortress tower: I did keep Columbia Parkway in because so much of the game relies on having roads setup such that goods / services can flow and Eastern has streetcars on it so... Someone made a bridge that kind of looks like the Roebling Suspension bridge, and I did some reading and it was cited as a european inspiration for the Brooklyn (and by obvious proxy) the roebling bridge, I just wish it was taller, might have to fiddle around with this a bit more: Train Yards for the Court St station (which was Broadway Commons and now is the Casino), the Edificio Kavanaugh from Buenos Aires fills in for the Times-Star building. The Baldwin Piano Company and the entrance to Eden Park (which I'm pretty proud I was able to recreate), I also learned that the CL&N railroad had a station here so I'm probably going to add that in: Coney island along with the ends for 2 interurban lines that terminated there, though one of these could be extended outwards and I'll probably add in a concert venue, now if only they had a horse racetrack that was ploppable: Mt Adams with the little Miami rail in the foreground. I can remember as a kid Eastern Ave looking like a series of villages I kind of miss that even if the infill that's going in now is relatively high quality by Cincy standards, tearing down all that stuff has lost something. Though IMO the bottom of Mt Adams was the biggest loss as it was as urban as the rest of the basin as I understand it. Shot of Crosley Field at dusk: Riverfront neighborhoods from Columbia Tusculumish - I need a bit more of Columbia-Tusculum finished up, NKY and of course the hilltop stuff (though that will come a lot later if I don't hit game limits first). If I do first person view and drive down Columbia parkway it feels eerie like I'm driving down an alt dimension version of it: Better view of the neighborhoods: Ending with a street scene somewhere downtownish, I'm starting to get overwhelmed by the amount of streetcars (trams) on the roads here:

David Pepper, who pretty much was handpicked by Luken to succeed him and we all know how good Luken was as mayor.... Thank goodness Mallory won, the city would be in far worse shape if that didn't happen.

You are probably right. Remember who runs the Dems in Ohio :(.

There are almost no housing left in Mt Auburn period considering what was demoed there... Still bitter about those dutch looking brick houses right by Christ Hospital for isntance sacrificed for an overflow lot (when the same block at lesser housing that oddly was kept :/).

Its also extremely on brand for them. Now and then I attend tailgate parties at Chicago fire games and know someone who was for a time involved in organizing fan events for them, and I'll tell you any beer that wasn't PBR was all craft. Most of the culture around MLS is more hipster than your average sports culture, (and the non hipster parts are immigrant communities which Cincy is comparatively lacking in) so craft beer sponsorship makes a ton of sense. I think Jake's got the right idea here.

Going to post a few more pics tonight, as I've gotten much of the east side riverfront communities done (all the way to Coney island), I have a pretty powerful computer and can handle a pretty large area being populated and have all 81 tiles enabled. Still not quite done with the basin but needed a break from zoning out grid after grid of similar dense buildings. One concession I made that turned out far more interesting than I originally thought was leaving out Union Terminal. I originally decided against including it because there were no assets for it in the Asset editor and that the building is so iconic that I couldn't stomach using a standin. In doing so it allowed me to use the pre 1930s rail setup and in learning more about it the more I felt that Union Terminal was ultimately a bad thing for Cincinnati's regional transit - its too far from Downtown, and forcing people to use it pretty much killed a good chunk of commuter rail in town which were forced to do circuitous routes through Norwood just to get to a station that was still too far from where the jobs are. Lots of cities don't have consolidated stations either - to this day Chicago has more than one station and in general it serves the city well - I think other than its fantastic architecture it was a net loss for Cincinnati (and it also obliterated a really pretty park Lincoln Park in the process). A smarter move for the city IMO would have been to build a subway to connect all the different staions, something that Melbourne Australia kind of has and is working on finishing up. Another interesting thing I've found is that UK and French assets are good standins for second empire and federalist row/townhouses and that the roofs of the UK terrace houses look closer to the rooflines you'd find in Cincy, though the french stuff is stone and I'm looking for brick, I can only find stone or frame second empire. I still wish someone though would model out some cincy vernacular assets though. In searching for stuff I found a guy who's doing historic Kansas city stuff that's been long demolished, I might want to reach out to him about this... I'd like to give a huge shoutout to @jjakucyk's traction history site, its been fantastic for getting the rail network right where it needs to be right and for me to add some embellishments where necessary/wanted, though I'm kind of doing some anachronistic things particularly when interurbans come into the picture since a lot of them failed pre 1930s.

This forum had a similar transformative effect on me as well (I lurked well before I started posting here and this place introduced me to a lot of good urbanist ways of thinking) though I already had some prerequisites in the form of going to Europe and basically living in a flat for 2 weeks about a block from a metro train station in a midsized city (Bilbao Spain) - it made all these ideas far more tangible to me. And to think this all came from me having an oddball interest in why I-75 through Cincinnati was different than other expressways I've seen (the Lockland trench and a whole lot of other oddities) finding info on that via Jake's website and stumbling into this forum. I had an interest in better understanding local politics and while at the time it was dysmal this forum helped me get a better grasp on it crica 2005-7.

What's left of Mt Auburn? This was literally one of Cincinnati's prettiest neighborhoods and yet it seems like almost all of it except for Liberty hill is being demoed ?

I did see that, and when I saw it I thought lets get more in and stuff that brands itself as "cincinnati". Yes I know Sam Adam's history and I'm overjoyed they have a taproom in OTR because that's a hook to get people introduced to all the good craft brewery stuff going on in the region, but the idea just needs to be sold stronger that Cincinnati is a hub for craft beer of exceptional quality built on the shoulders of its exceptional history with beer. ;).

Perfect. It hasn't opened yet, but they'd be ideal given their emphasis on the town's brewing history - its a good way to introduce out of towners to said history.

They need to do something like this with a Beer focus. Maybe a Rhinegeist Taproom or something? A place to emphasis the interest in craft beer in the region. Btw if you have feedback for CVG I'd recommend pulling out your laptop and connecting to wifi, they actually will prompt you for a survey if you do that. Now that I'm actually flying there (its suddenly a very useful airport for me with the price drops), I'd argue that its generally a pretty nice airport - it feels overbuilt for what it is and more stores could be filled in, but in general operations seem smooth, like the security lines for instance generally operate very smoothly.

People in larger cities already shop this way. I agree that the cultural shift is difficult.

Its still not friendly to tourists who just want to go in and check it out. Another year I tried going in on a Sunday not during mass and the doors were locked. I think something like this is what I'm envisioning where there are clear hours and a clear process for touring the place that isn't call and we'll give a tour or we'll only give a tour on the 3rd sunday every two weeks. I guess what I'm getting at is making it tourist friendly something Cincinnati fails at every single time with most of its landmarks. http://cathedralstl.org/friends-of-the-cathedral/cathedral-tours/ which is easily searchable: VS ????????? ?????? ???? Oh I see Monthly only monthy cathedral tour hidden in the calendar. No consistent hours no effort by the cathedral or the city to highlight what is IMO a unique church in the united states. Thanks guys.

Thanks! I'll use that method for the NKY cities which I have yet to model out (though am looking forward to given the number of dedicated streetcar rows there). With hillsides I had just opened up a google maps window in my browser on one monitor, set it to topography mode, then aligned up the topographies using my dual monitor setup. Its kind of winged but it really helped me model out where hill street and Martin Drive meet Columbia parkway for instance. (and Mt Adams was super hard to get right particularly since I'm including roads that have been removed / renamed so it was a lot of look at the sanborn map, look at the 1912 map of cincy then look at google maps for topography on roads that still exist - I need to find a good 1930s / 1940s map of the city IMO).

My biggest issue was getting things aligned right. There were a few places where I had to alter the alignment to make one part of town work a bit better. They have an open street map overlay mod but its super hard to use and I need the coordinates of the map from the original map creator (creating maps is pretty challenging too if you want to scale them right at least for a place like Cincy with rivers and creeks). I got lucky that someone created this map that really met all my needs even down to the lack of highway connections :D. https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=784937349

Does anyone here have the artistic skills for 3D buildings models (and time of course)? If so I'd love to see at least some of the below modeled for Cities Skylines. Here's a guide to exporting them from 3DS Max: https://community.simtropolis.com/forums/topic/68091-official-tutorial-guide-how-to-turn-a-model-into-game-ready-asset-3ds-max/ Detached victorian houses like these (both the italianate and the second empire houses): Cincy Style Late Victorians (the wider ones are pretty well approximated): Bigger mansion versions like you'd find on the east side: Courtyard Apartments as well: Landmarks (old and current): Union Terminal Oddfellows hall (now a wonderful parking lot): 6th Street Market (this is one of the ones I want the most): Flower Market (right down the street): Penn Station (little Miami Terminal) The old unitarian church: Isaac M Wise Temple: St Peter in Chains Cathedral (I wish they'd open this one up to tourists I snuck in there once while showing friends around Cincy and was blown away I've never seen a Catholic Church like this - its like late roman / Byzantine era stuff): City Hall: Times-Star building: Central Trust building (with its original top): Carew Tower: Findlay Market: Also the art deco style retaining walls (they can be quays due to mods that allow you to place them everywhere) and railings found on found on Columbia Parkway:

As I promised here are some screenshots of what I'm working on - still in progress and I really wish riverside didn't catch fire while I was grabbing screenshots (that's what I get for heavily foresting it). I know its not 100% (man I'd like those landmarks modeled out, particularly all the churches on plum street or the hannaford 6th street market) but I'm pretty happy with this vision of a Cincinnati as if it had preserved its old urbanity.

Maybe it will lead to less demolition in the area - one would hope...

I've got something similar in the works - I'm remaking Cincinnati but without expressways (for the most part only I-75 and I-74 with a tiny stretch of I-275 in NKY - from the Aberdeen map), Brooklyn style architecture in the basin including the west end and more of a mix outside those areas) and even streetcars,inclines and the subway (thanks to jjakucyk's website I can get the streetcar routes relatively accurate). I've done some creative reinterpretation in spots (making the CL&A interurban run from Lower Price hill to Anderson Ferry) and would love if someone here could model some current / historic landmarks (I'd love to see the old churches of Plum Street as they were for instance) or vernacular architecture specific to Cincinnati (I can only get frame second empire townhouses not brick ones from the workshop though the Dresden Cubehouses are a close approximation of the apartment buildings at least). Stay tuned, I'll post a few preview screenshots tonight.

Btw to those who were curious what the old Court Street market looked like, here is a blog post, it even addresses the mysterious early 90s signs: http://www.diggingcincinnati.com/2014/02/court-street-market-since-1829.html The markethouse sadly was pretty modest, very wild west looking, nothing like the one at Plum Street built by Hanaford.

Yeah even though Chicago was literally the seat of the Polish government in exile during World War 2 and still has the largest Polish population in the world outside of Poland, we do not have this. I think Polish Sausage (said with the superfans voice from SNL) is bigger here.

There are plenty of them in Chicago and Detroit too.

You know I am part of a rust belt urbanist group on Facebook that renamed itself into a perogi based name thinking it would unite the entire rust belt. I had to explain to them that perogi's were more of a great lakes / St Louis* thing, that much of the rust belt closer to the Ohio river like where I grew up just doesn't have them. Perogi's are extremely common in the upper midwest btw. *STL has a much stronger influence from the great lakes cities even down to having the northern cities vowel shift thanks to their proximity to the canal that connects the Mississippi to Lake Michigan via Chicago

Looking forward to finding out if Kroger completely integrated Mariano's concept into this store.

Yeah I remember that, even wrote them a letter about it because I was seriously upset, if I had to pick a #2 after Over-The-Rhine to see restored it was that stretch of Walnut Hills. They made the excuse that the money was impossible to find. I didn't entirely buy that IMO because when there is a will there is a way and IMO I think Cincinnatians in general (not the people on this forum for the most part) at that point had no cultural frame to see what kinds of restoration projects were possible.