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Who on here has been to an OSU game and separately, a UC game? I am sure there are a few of us on here and thus, I am sure we can all agree that watching a game at Ohio Stadium and watching a game at Nippert Stadium is something you don't compare. The atmosphere and experience at Ohio Stadium is by far and away bigger and better than anything you could experience at Nippert. I went to OSU for undergrad and became accustomed to the Ohio Stadium experience. I now go to UC for grad. school and every time I went to a game at Nippert, in all honesty, I felt like I was watching a game in a league below that of OSU. Yes, Nippert is WONDERFUL and is beautifully set, but if we are talking about stadiums here, and what stadiums are used for (watching games mostly and experiences associated with that) then I agree with Colday, there is no comparison. Ohio Stadium > Nippert...duh!

Oh geez. Who cares. At OSU, there is 'Tho Oval.' There are other ovals of green space on campus, but The Oval is The Oval just like UC's quad is The Quad. Great set of photos btw. I especially love the first two.

im not seeing a dramatic difference. certainly not a big enough difference to get all worked up over.

Oh wow, I missed this. Well thanks for the warm welcome and all the info. I am actually moving in Late June so I am not there yet. Also, I lived in Indy last summer and was able to experience a lot of Indy in the short time I was there. I am looking forward to getting to know the place a bit better over the next few years or however long my stay is.

Well thanks for the repeat, but that wasn't my point...at all. But....what is the basis of these routes? Are there a lot of economic development opportunities along these lines, TOD opportunities maybe?

Really isn't specific. But what is the route he is proposing, why is the current one too big, what are some examples of other places that have taken a similar approach? What is the basis for thinking this way? This is the issue I have. If you are going to naysay and demand your opinion be considered valid, then you must have valid arguments, valid facts, and valid reasoning as your basis to your opinion. This is how the real world works.

Fine, then admit his isn't any less valid than yours, something you claim by saying he has no understanding of the real world. But having said that, what is your opinion based off? What real world experience or example can you cite that gives validity to your point of view with regard to the streetcar? Randy's point of view atleast has underpinning with regard to the numerous feasibility studies conducted, examples of successful streetcars in other cities, and general market trends toward urban, sustainable living.

A place like OTR is his oyster. There is nothing wrong with that. Just because its the object of negativity for you doesn't mean you have a better understanding of the real world than he. It simply means he is an optimist and you are not.

Thank you for proving my point. You don't have any idea how the real world works. How did I prove you point? Are the two actually the same, if so please explain how. Also I would like to say since you don't know me, what I do for a living, or who I am as a person that you don't make generalizations and assumptions about me or my understanding of the world. I think if you did know any of the above that you might actually be surprised at my understandings of the "real world." And by DanB stating that you don't undestand the real world, there is an assumption by him that he does. I wouldn't take this assumption as fact, as everything he has said on this board points to the contrary.

I think its pretty clear there is a pent up demand in urban, downtown living in this city. This can be seen in the success of the Gateway Quarter and the fact that something like 90% + of apartments in downtown are occupied The only problem is the majority of what is out there is out of most peoples price range. What the streetcar does is allow some units to be built with only 1 parking space per unit or maybe 0 per unit, making projects much more feasible for the developer and affordable for the buyer/renter because the additional $50,000 cost of a structured parking space is no longer a part of the cost to buy. So I think it is a reasonable assumption that more people would move to OTR if there was a streetcar.

Yea, and other times, the product is a wild success. Its called 'risk.' And the streetcar in Cincinnati is an exceptionally calculated risk. What are you proposing...steady state because things are too 'risky?' That mindset is what plagues Cincinnati and the Midwest and only holds us back. We must do things to make the city better...doing things involve taking risks, making decisions, trying new things. If you don't know that, you don't know anything.

the CAGIS streets layer is quite large, as it covers every street in Hamilton County. Uuummm, I would call CAGIS and say you are a student and need the layer for school purposes and you can get a major discount or even for free.

this has got to be the dumbest development idea I have seen in awhile. Tearing down that section of Short Vine is completely idiotic. This better not happen. And hello, there is a field of dreams between Calhoun and McMillan ready for this type of crap. come on.

Are you taking the boys with you? LMAO!!! You bitch, making comments in threads I would otherwise only visit once. I'm gonna betch slap you shiiiitbaaaag!

yea I like it too. Although the close up of the two logos towards the end seemed a bit hokey.

well i dont think there is an official start date so the completion date is definitely still in the air. But if it did start this summer I would imagine it being a 2-3 year project. maybe 1 year before the first tenant moved in. not sure though.

this is a fantastic building and can offer very unique living for the City.

^clearly a bit of crusing/stalking going on there. But if you have any more of the cute boys, post them. Oh yea, Evanston looked good too. :)

Yes, but it is controversial (of course, its the Midwest). It would run from downtown at Union Station northeast to the suburb of Fishers.

Great set. Loved them, and the mood music too!

Thanks for these. Fountain Square interested me. The area around the square seemed quite run down and the square itself lacked a lot of aesthetics, and yet it seemed to be functioning and semi-thriving. Kind of like O-Bryonville in Cincinnati, although O-Bryonville is jammed full of beautiful aesthetics. But the 'hood around it....not so much.

You would. You're so suburban.

thanks a lot for these. Union Station = where I will be working. Love the building. The canal is something unique for Indy, although it pales in comparison to the Riverwalk in San Antonio. The canal in Indy needs more mixed use to allow it to become more of a neighborhood.

great contextual fit.

sigh...I need to get to DC asap. Great photo set!