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The mini Memphis...always glad to see pics of Jackson.

In other words, the South has sizable Black rural populations.

One of the best collections of Columbia I've seen. Very nice job!

That's not quite as true more recently with the rise of metropolitan areas like Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham, and Nashville. Even smaller metro areas like Huntsville and Greenville-Spartanburg are getting hip to the game economically speaking.

I'm not sure I get that one...

Yeah, that's because it's a planned city. The squares in particular were a stroke of genius by Oglethorpe. As an SC native, I'm partial to (and more familiar with) Charleston, but both have their own unique charm and flavor. I'll take 'em both. ;)

Visited family near Savannah for Christmas and decided to take a brief excursion downtown. Historic Colonial Park Cemetary Cathedral of St. John the Baptist Lafayette Square Hamilton-Turner Inn Andrew Low House, home of Juliette Gordon Low, founder of the Girl Scouts of America Madison Square Monument of Revolutionary War hero, Sgt. William Jasper Green-Meldrim Mansion, which served as the lodging of choice for General William Tecumseh Sherman during his somewhat unwelcome stay in Savannah. From a desk in an upstairs bedroom, Sherman dictated a telegram to Abraham Lincoln, offering the city as an extravagant 1864 Christmas present. St. John's Episcopal Church Pulaski Square Savannah College of Art and Design building Scottish Rite Temple Orleans Square Chippewa Square

Awesome shots! Concerning Pittsburgh's declining population, I believe it's not quite as high as it used to be when manufacturing was really taking a hit in the 80's. But the city isn't a magnet for domestic migration or immigrants, and birth rates have declined as a result of the time when young people/young families were really fleeing the city en masse. That's my assessment anyway. As far as the fountain goes, it was probably dyed pink for National Breast Cancer Awareness Month. A couple of fountains here in Charlotte were dyed pink in October as well.

There are worse things to be, I suppose.

If I'm breaking any rules, let me know.

I seriously doubt you've been to every single city in the South. Seriously. Now I KNOW you haven't been to every city in the South because there's no way you could say this. Ever heard of New Orleans, Charleston, Savannah, Richmond, Louisville, etc.? And when it comes to contemporary architecture, which can certainly be classified as good, we've got lots of those also. Obama Hatred: Racism and Ugly American in OH In other words, those things you speak of are not exclusively found in the South. Just as in the Midwest, most of this stuff is relegated to the more rural areas of the region, not the major urban centers. Now you just sound flat-out ignorant dude. Wheeling's population density is 2,110.1/sq mi. Even my city of Charlotte, which is very rarely mentioned in the same sentence as the word "dense," is denser at 2,515.7/sq mi. Richmond's is 3,211.1/sq mi. Atlanta's is 4,018/sq mi. Norfolk's is 4,362.6/sq mi. Miami's is 6,558.2/sq mi. There are plenty of Southern cities denser than Wheeling. If you have legitimate hang-ups with Atlanta and the South, that's fine, but your reasoning appears to be a bit juvenile.

The South Carolina photo page incorrectly states that Columbia is the state's 2nd largest city and that Greenville is the state's largest city. Columbia is the state's largest city and MSA. Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson is the state's largest CSA while Greenville is the state's 6th or 7th largest city.

You might be the only person I know who would consider Savannah part of South Carolina. Savannah is authentically Georgian and is where Georgia began. Besides, South Carolina already has Charleston.

I've seen lots of photo threads dedicated to the Blue Line, and ride by these developments on a regular basis, but this is probably the best photo shoot dedicated to the line that I've seen yet. Kudos Uncle Rando!

Baxter Village is in South Carolina, and South Carolinians love their (our) flag. :) I'm a bit conflicted about these New Urbanist developments, particularly those that are built outside of any pre-existing urban context. On the one hand, it's better than the ubiquitous cookie-cutter subdivisions named for the trees that were mowed down to build it. On the other hand, it's self-contained and lacks connectivity with its surroundings. I mean it's right next to I-77 for goodness sake. Unfortunately, this is about as good as it's going to get for Fort Mill, at least in the foreseeable future. The town is just flat-out committed to sprawl. It's all about the tax dollars, good design principles be damned. From all of the crap popping up along I-77 and in close proximity to it, you wouldn't even know that the town actually has a traditional downtown. It's got the potential to be something special, but sadly, I don't think it ever will be.

I understand that this is an Ohio-centric board, but I tend to stay out of discussions when I'm not familiar with the subject. And because I'm not all that familiar with Ohio, I really don't have much to contribute when it comes to Ohio cities (although I browse some of the threads ocassionally). So I typically stick to this subforum and the photos subforums. And yes, I am familiar with UP.

I think I see now why I haven't posted here in over a year. How am I bashing the North? I've NEVER done such a thing. I actually hope to move to DC (geographically Southern, but more culturally Northern) or maybe even NYC one day in the near future. And I do realize that many Southern/Sunbelt cities have nothing near the density of Midwestern and Northern cities. I'm very well aware of that and have never tried to claim otherwise. The authentic urban feel of those cities come with time, and hopefully the same will be true of Sunbelt cities such as my own. As far as rednecks, they exist equally in the South and the Midwest. Some of these YouTube videos showcasing McCain-Palin voters in Wisconsin and Ohio have been nothing short of downright scary. But I really don't even want to get into which region is worse or what have you, and I apologize for any role I might have played in even bringing the discussion to this point. Defending, or just plain explaining, the South seems to be rather distasteful over here, at least to some, so I suppose I'll just bow out. I'm not really interested in dialoguing with folks being opinionated to the point of being disingenous and totally unfair to "outsiders." And they said us Southerners were bad when it came to that.

Yeah I can. I'm bitchy, older, and jaded! :wink: LOL! At least you're not loathe to admit it. :)

^Seriously, it's posts like those that make Rust-belters seem bitter and jealous. And that view would be just as warped as assuming that the South has no cities. And I have much experience with the North, and limited experience with the Midwest. I simply came to this thread to shed light on the situation happening in my city. There was no "criticism of the South" in the intial post; only speculation as to what may happen in Charlotte with the acquisition of Wachovia by Wells Fargo. You'd think that a person actually living in the "city" of Charlotte would be able to do that with a bit more accuracy, but I guess the Midwest and North simply rule supreme even in ascertaining the fate of the backwards and ignorant South. In short, jmecklenborg, get a friggin' life.

Still, you can't paint such a diverse region with a broad brush.

^I don't see how a person can totally dislike an entire region as though it were totally monolithic, or how one can use one criterion (urbanity) above all others to form his/her overall opinion--I've always been perplexed about that--but to each his own.

So how did you find us? I forget (I want to say it was a mention at SSC), but I first posted here maybe about a year ago. It was in an Atlanta thread (a city that doesn't seem to get much love over here) and things got a little ugly, LOL.

I sure do.

C'mon dude, Atlanta vs. Chicago isn't even a fair fight and you know it. Chicago has its share of hideous towers also; the skyline is just so friggin' dense and expansive that it really doesn't matter. The signature towers in Atlanta's skyline are pretty nice IMO and don't even come close to resembling the "hotel of doom."

It IS a great city, just for other reasons. Even if it did preserve its historic smaller buildings--which I wish it did--it still wouldn't measure up to Boston or DC in the urbanity category as it didn't have half the stock those cities had in their heyday.