Oldmanladyluck

The city of Cleveland is actually gaining in population (finally). https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/05/is-clevelands-population-finally-growing-census-estimates-say-yes-2-years-in-a-row.html So is Cleveland Heights. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/clevelandheightscityohio/PST045224 I hate to be that guy, but I think part of the region’s negative perception over the years has been the perpetual decline of our inner city and inner ring. That’s starting to change and I think we can all appreciate and take pride, for once in most of our adult lives, in that. CH’s mayor has put himself in a hell of a situation. I’ve heard from somewhere he wants to run again but he’s likely unelectable at this point.

Good numbers if that’s the case 👍

Data centers may not employ a lot of people, but they do generate a lot in taxes which is why many cities go after them. A win for downtown, for sure! The best of both worlds would be for the Browns to stay downtown as well, but I’m not going to get off topic.

$6B cut to the NASA budget proposed by Trump admin for FY ‘26. This will undoubtedly affect Cleveland. Page 407 shows the proposed civil-service cuts to employment, from 1,391 this year to 837 next year. Call your Reps, Senators, the VP, whoever.

I just want to see the World Class Signage.

Brook Park Mayor on 92.3 right now. Every point brought up by the mayor about logistics with RTA already exists downtown. New development replicating what we have in the county with no population growth. None of the radio hosts are asking good questions…. Only mentioning the suberbowl as the best to come from this (a one-freaking time event IF Cleveland is chosen). The radio hosts are clueless.

New numbers came out… close to 1% growth in April; Ed’s & Meds are less than 8,000 away from being a full 100,000 more employed than in manufacturing.

Do tell!!

@KJP did an article on this previously where he mentions the amount of housing units which could be built on the lakefront to offset the loss of taxes from the Browns. The numbers are realistic, so the city may take a short term loss but be able to make the money up in a few years after the move (if the state doesn’t not vote in favor).

Completely unsurprising from GCP.

It is actually cheaper to rent downtown than it is in both University Circle and Ohio City (I just googled downtown Cleveland rental average and it is actually lower). From an economics standpoint, the city would want the income taxes from the people who move in, but I can understand the push towards not sacrificing future funds for the schools with the tax abatement. It’s an interesting conundrum; I ask myself if the lack of newer housing options would actually dampen demand in a high demand neighborhood-level market? It’s taken downtown years to get to this point- but interestingly enough, our downtown rents are STILL lower than most other cities. This explains why developers still can’t make the numbers work, which was the same boat we were in 20 years ago.

Outstanding 🙂

Count me in!

Welp, what's done is done. Some will love it, some will loathe it. I think it has it's angles where it can be a show stopper, just like the BP (Sohio) building.

Count me in.

Cleveland Thermal still owns it but I don't know if it's operating in any capacity.

^Lots of vacant, city-owned land around the station. This is a huge chance to recreate a neighborhood from the ground-up around this station.

As it should be :-) I think every neighborhood should have it's own gems of different styles, shapes and sizes. That's part of what makes the city unique IMO.

I read somewhere within the last 20 years that the land was remediated in the 80s by Forest City. Could be wrong though.

Someday, a developer will look at leasing the land for development. That way Scranton-Averell can hold onto the title and the land could finally be better utilized.

I want the oil can!

^That and it's not the best look for the majority of the Republican party to cut funding to public schools and the public library fund, while concurrently granting funding to a billionaire in a rushed job without even doing a traffic study. That angle would likely get pushed more and more as the vote comes closer.

Ba-dum-bum-tssssss You know what this town could use? 10-15 more Ten60's, all within the parking lots located throughout downtown. I love this project- and wish there was a market for many more.

I thought the same thing :-) Every home nationally televised NBA game will have this shot; and thank God, because they love to recycle footage from before SHW was built.

“We can’t afford to put money into stadiums out of the general fund”. Well well… a surprise but I’m still not buying.