Oldmanladyluck

I think it’s awesome that we have existing historic infrastructure which has the potential of being reused as the downtown CVSR terminal.

This could go in a couple threads…

I would absolutely love to donate towards something like this. The more diversity the city and the region has and can grow from, the better.

^He's only a year in. I'm also presuming that having Marcia Fudge in Joe Biden's administration was the main reason why Cleveland secured the eight-highest amount of ARPA funds in the nation ($511 million), but that's taking the thread off-topic.

Could someone please explain how a mayor who is actively making rounds and building relationships with people in higher power is a BAD thing for the City, and how this amounts to campaigning?

I’m a Ronayne fan! With both Bibb and Ronayne leading the way, it feels like we finally… FINALLY… have competent leadership who aren’t part of the old guard.

Meanwhile down Euclid… I haven’t been by for a while so I’m glad to see they’re working the 8th floor already.

Outstanding work! Thanks

A very nice addition to UC.

Good move by the Browns. We’ll see if the Special Teams Coordinator survives.

It could very well be a long-term play; if memory serves me correctly Bedrock paid $80 million for the riverfront land from Forest City. Of course there needs to be a lot of infrastructure work before the land can be built on as envisioned, yet still there's been no movement and it's been a few years now. We all remember phase 2 of the casino and I think it's been over six years now since that was teased. One big difference between the former nuCLEus site and the riverfront is that the NuCLEus site is much more shovel ready. If/when we see digging up around the perimeter of the site (same as we saw with SHW along W. 3rd before construction was announced, another @KJPscoop), we'll know something is imminent. And I'm sure we'll know before everyone else does if/when things will begin here as I'd bet @KJPgets the scoop yet again.

So... this morning I went through the Cleveland Visualizations thread from front to back (I would NOT recommend doing that unless you have time :-D ) and this rendering by @Geowizicalisn't just OUTSTANDING, but it seems as though this could mostly be realized within the next few years with Bedrock now owning the NuCLEus site.

Very true- though I would suspect the City would still have to do infrastructure improvements to the water and sewer lines underground, same as was required before SHW began construction. And @KJP...

Huge news- hoping this get things moving soon! Edit: The article mentions the Hudson Yards site in Detroit and how Bedrock is the developer. The NuCLEus site is a bit larger, but not by much!

Hope not.

During a time in human history where fresh water resources will become more and more scarce, this is the type of movement the region needs. 🏆

And Chris is off and running 🏆

Going back to the 80s and earlier, the manufacturing sector accounted for 30% of the local jobs and up, depending on how far back you go. Now, the sector accounts for 10-12% of the total employment of the region- which has positives in different directions, one being what you mentioned above. Another being that Cleveland is now on par with other metros when it comes to the manufacturing sector as a percentage when compared to the entire local economy. However, 1) The region will not (barring another global pandemic) be as affected by the swings of the national and global marketplaces when recessions hit. In the past, Cleveland would take a hit and then take a looooong time to rebound. I've said it a million times, but we still haven't regained the roughly 75,000 jobs lost during the 2002 and 2008 recessions, post NAFTA signing. Cleveland's peak employment and regional population years regarding local statistics since the 1990s was during 2000-2001, which was the last time the region grew in population by a healthy 2% (we did have growth during the last census which I was surprised by, but I believe it was close to 10,000 people if I remember correctly). The jobs lost were primarily in the manufacturing sector post NAFTA and in large part Eds and Meds have taken their place. The manufacturing sector would literally have to create tens of thousands of jobs to match the forward progress of Eds and Meds. 2) At one point, a person could graduate from Collinwood Highschool and literally walk across E. 152nd to get a high paying manufacturing job. Many of the plants where those jobs were located are now brownfields and have yet to be redeveloped, save for Collinwood Athletic Complex which isn't a job generator but is a redevelopment nonetheless. A negative that I just realized regarding the manufacturing sector being king for so long in Cleveland is just that- that people could expect to get a job without having any skills. Generations of Clevelanders were able to do so- how does that bode for kids who live in the city and are still in school? By now, their grandparents were the last generation who were able to walk out of school and get a high-paying, under-skilled manufacturing job. Those days are gone- and someone better be in the kid's ear telling them to at least learn a trade or a skill in order to make it. I can agree that the country needs more high-paying under-skilled jobs; but in reality, we are living in a region where we can see what happens when those jobs are relied on. Another negative is that nagging perception tied to manufacturing that outsiders have- namely Generation Xers and Boomers about Cleveland. I'm not being sensitive (or maybe I am)- but I can't recall the last time I saw someone on tv or in a recent news article talking about Neil Armstrong landing on the moon. I can recall the last time I saw someone bash Cleveland as part of a news story, mentioning the river fire- one video I saw just this week. That literally happened before Armstrong set foot on the moon, and yet- you'll hear about it today more. Why? That perception people have about Cleveland = $. People will choose to live here, get a job here, start a business here- based on not just what a business offers them but also what they perceive the region to be like. Oftentimes a person's perception isn't changed until they come here to visit- but how often does that happen? Anecdotally, how many times has someone not taken a job or chosen to visit based at least in part on that perception? That all has an affect on the local economy- I don't' know if we'll ever be able to have a measured study with statistics (or if there's even data for that type of study to begin with) but I would love to see one.

Cleveland's economy is still recovering from 2020, however the trends are great. As the local economy is now dominated by Eds and Meds, one future lesson learned from the shutdown is that pandemics will affect Cleveland more-so than other regions. The Education and Health Services sector of the economy lost 20,000 jobs between 2020 and 2021, but is recovering and trending in the right direction. The largest sectors of employment within the Cleveland economy as of 12/29/2022 are as follows: 1) Education and Health Services 2) Trade, Transportation, and Utilities 3) Professional and Business Services 4) Government 5) Manufacturing Begin rant: Local civic leaders should be pushing another narrative other than "Blue-Collar Cleveland" which is all anyone outside of Cleveland knows about as the view of Cleveland being just steel mills doesn't apply anymore. Maybe that way, at least we can hear less about the river catching on fire from the national media over 50 years later and the perception of the town to Gen Xers and Boomers may change (since they're the ones that always mention the river). I know perception doesn't tie directly with economic news, but perception does play a part in if a person would consider living here and spending their hard-earned money here. End rant.

The Rose would make for a great conversion into apartments. Great location close to Progressive Field, on E. 9th, a couple blocks from Playhouse Square. I think the building has a future if they choose to sell it to a developer. As for Medical Mutual- they might not be in Brooklyn for much longer than required if there is no “bad blood” between the company and Cleveland. They may end up realizing the move was a mistake and end up coming back in some form in a few years; in that case, they may choose not to sell the Rose. That may me just wishing, but I guess we’ll see.

Nobody cares about Baker.

Overthrown passes, and dropped passes. The end.

Me to too- tan leather by the entrance, sitting at the bar