Oldmanladyluck

That's the way I pronounce it as well.

I'm Generation Y! Whohoo!!

^Is that 15% for ALL office buildings downtown, or just the Class A space? If it is the Class A space that Crains is referring to, we're back to square one as far as office development is concerned. 15% regarding all Class A, B, and C space would be a GREAT number, though. The more residential conversions, the better, as this would show.

Do you mean north of Monticello? Or is the area south of Monticello also in the EC school district? Ah yes, NORTH! My mistake!

^It took a while, but decay has crept into Cleveland Heights along the EC boarder. Some of the residential streets east of Taylor Rd. and south of Monticello blvd have seen decay. This same section of Cleveland Heights is within the East Cleveland school district... with an accompanying drop in city services to this section of CH.

^I just joined. Thanks!

KJP- are Youngstown's leaders aware of this? I would hope that Youngstown is able to take advantage of this.

I keep trying to tell people that EC has some of the best potential in the region. I'm expecting to see some major steps forward with the election of the city's new mayor. Great pics!

^^Cleveland wants a championship now!! Trade Hickson, and bring back Big Z after 30 days. Z definitely deserves a win this year, I would say more than any other Cavalier besides LeBron, whose leadership has truly changed this team.

I heard a while ago that Gilbert actually had an option to buy the land behind Tower City, which is owned by Forest City. Seems as if there's something not being said about what is really going on...

The connection to University Circle is a no-brainer for EC, and should have been pursued by the city leaders years ago. I mean the city BOARDERS University Circle- and has the Red Line and Healthline running through it. Why not take advantage of the geographic location? Well, we know the answer. I'm hoping that EC will be able to draw residents who want to live closer to the Circle. I agree with the new mayor- gentrification is NOT a bad word for this city. Though a lot of EC's housing and building stock is in need of major repair, the city still has some very large, beautiful homes just south of Euclid on some of the residential streets- again- bordering University Circle.

Some people will never understand. I don't want to generalize all exurbanites... however, many choose to move to a certain area because of the low taxes and current (emphasis on current) quality of the school system. The funny thing is that they don't realize the more people move into their jurisdiction, the more taxes must be raised to support the added increase in city services, including child education. In this sense, taxes being raised on the homeowners in many exurbs is inevitable, as many are really commuter suburbs. What is also inevitable, seemingly, is the complaining done by many exurbanites when these tax increases must occur.

I could be speaking too soon (and I hope I'm not)... but is it me, or does the PD seem as if it is becoming more pro-Cleveland? Suburbs losing jobs faster than city of Cleveland, new data show By Olivera Perkins, The Plain Dealer February 13, 2010, 3:59PM The worst recession in our lifetimes has hit suburban workers far harder than people in Cleveland, new data show. Suburban Cuyahoga County lost 41,000 jobs -- 5.6 percent of its employment -- from 2007 through 2009, according to a study from economic research analyst George Zeller. Cleveland lost 5,700 jobs, or 2.2 percent. The pattern reverses a decades-old trend of heavier job loss in the city. This time, layoffs -- like home foreclosures and demand for social services -- have spread well beyond Cleveland's borders, showing again that this recession has reached farther and deeper than any we've known. Found at: http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/02/percentage_of_jobs_lost_in_the.html

^I think that's Excellent news! This shows that downtown establishments can survive and branch out!

^Agreed. This is GREAT news for the city! I hope that we will be able to build toe either expand the new facility or build more than one plant in the future.

I LOVE the Star Wars addition to this! Regarding the original rendering- *BARF*

I have heard that Forest City is a major property holder in this area... I would have to guess that, yes, even Forest City can see the growth potential around University Circle. If they actually do own large amounts of property in the vicinity of the corridor, I would hope that they develop it in some "fashion" according to zoning codes, of course. Speaking of which, has there been any discussion in the city regarding the zoning of the land around the corridor? This is, IMO the most important factor of connecting UC to this corridor.

I LOVE the renderings!! How could the city NOT get behind a project like this? Great stuff!

^Great news for the region!

You've touched on another major problem- that unfortunately welfare has created a culture of entitlement to the impoverished (SOME, not all). Again, children are brought up under these circumstances, and then told that school is important. Why, when you can do nothing and get paid?

^Agreed. Crime is a symptom of joblessness. Some kids with no role models or a male figure to show them what's right will no doubt look up to the drug dealers in the neighborhoods. Along with the pimps, the robbers, and what is considered to be "cool" today. Adding jobs would be GREAT, but how do we employ in areas such as light manufacturing? How many light manufacturing are left in the city? In the STATE? Jobs are indeed needed, but how do we educate the thousands left in the city without skills for today's economy? Lets factor in mass media and music artists who kids love the most (think Lil Wayne and TIP), and their messages. Fast money (a la drugs), fast cars, fast women. Factor in NFL, NBA, and other professional sports players and their actions on and off the court (Gilbert Arenas, Ron Artest, Braylon Edwards, the list goes on and on). These are some of the other role models kids in the city look up to. We can't forget that to some of these kids in our most impoverished neighborhoods, that professional sports is a "way out" of poverty- many work to achieve it, though few obtain it. Also factor in the parents of some of these children, who don't give a damn about school or working, or paying rent, or a multitude of other factors. The parents are the people that the children have to deal with on a daily basis. Factor in Section 8- what type of example does this set for the children who have parents who don't even HAVE to pay rent, and get to live rent free? I have a friend who first alerted me to the term, "Perpetual Underclass". She was right. The cycle never ends. Changing the CPSD is no simple problem- I'll call it an exceedingly intricate problem with many obstacles to overcome. Given that most of the major cities around the country have school systems which are sub-par, it is definitely not just a Cleveland problem. If one school district has the answer, we should at the very least try to copy it the best we can, though it may need to be tweaked here and there to fit Cleveland.

^^E.C.- I was speaking on the overall "perception" of African Americans (I myself am bi-racial), along with the changing "perception" of Euclid with the continued influx of African Americans into the city. I wasn't dealing the race card on anyone, and wouldn't expect to have to do so on this forum. I also wasn't being hyper-sensitive- I lived in Euclid for 20 years, and know the mindset of the local public very well. What Hts44121 was saying is indeed true, and lives on strong in Euclid and other inner-ring suburbs currently experiencing white-flight in the 21st century. Back to our regularly scheduled program... It will be interesting to see what positive changes come from the addition of Zimmerman will bring.

^Agreed. I've always thought the same thing. Additionally, there's the parking lots along Prospect and E 14th, which could make for a nice mixed/use residential and retail development.

^Law WOULD BE law, IF city council would not be so eager to get "put me anywhere in the USA" style development in their neighborhoods, and recommend zoning changes to fit crappy developments while at the city planning commission. In turn, the city planning commission should have the foresight and knowledge of the area to know that this style of development shouldn't take place within the City.

^I couldn't agree more. I've gone to Euclid Creek since I was a kid, and have always enjoyed myself. It seems as if the same old negative perceptions which follow African Americans wherever they are, are still in effect to this day. I'm personally SICK of it, but that's another discussion.