Oldmanladyluck

I wonder if anyone from the development team lurks on UrbanOhio… you never know.

If the owner of the parcel isn’t able to build due to any down vote when all this time has gone by, at what point could the developer sue the city? It seems as though the city’s boards have been as much of a burden as inflation.

^Awesome- it's been a while since we've had...

I agree but it would need to come before council. Anyone know a councilmember who may be willing to take that on? Or does anyone know how the mayor feels about billboards?

I believe it is indeed intentional, but more so based on city ordinance. The city only allows so many billboards and for every new billboard that goes up, one (or two of the new billboard is electronic) must be removed if I recall correctly.

^A plan is just a plan without the funding behind it. If there’s money involved, there’s the chance that at least part of each plan comes to fruition.

^Nothings been decided, so this is all fantasy talk… but that’s part of the fun of this forum. We get the chance to envision what Cleveland could potentially be; sometimes we’re close, sometimes not so much when it comes to projects announced. We’ll see how this plays out. @Geowizical ‘s done amazing in the past with envisioning what downtown could look like. Maybe any or our in-house artists could produce an updated downtown rendering of a completed SHW and… why not… another 30 story tower on the NuCLEus site with a residential tower next to it? We can all dream, can’t we?

Now that Public Square is filled, a new headquarters office could go anywhere; my guess would be that it ends up as part of Bedrock’s riverfront plan, which wouldn’t be a bad thing at all. Or maybe this could be the anchor for the former NuCLEus site… Either way, If this deal goes through, it’s a definite win for Cleveland and somewhat of a screw-you to Pittsburgh after PNC took National City (with the help of the federal government).

I can say that I know of one potential development that has hit the breaks because of interest rates BUT the expectation is that rates will come down next year. Why? The presidential election; rates will come down, and historically have. And if one developer is thinking along those lines, you can bet there are others who are doing the same as well. All is not lost- things will pick back up.

Outstanding Defense and a great win. Hoping they’ll be able to bring the same energy against the Ravens.

Great shot!!

Is there a local study on how much duplication there is within the County which would show one of the advantages to regionalism is getting rid of duplication and the associated costs with it? Regarding the local economy, local job growth is at +1% yoy for the month of August. In comparison Columbus is at 0.8% yoy for the month. Cincinnati is at 2.6% yoy for the month. Detroit is at 0.4% yoy for the month. Indianapolis is at 2.3% yoy for the month. Pittsburgh is at 2.5% yoy for the month. Within a 6 hour drive... and of course we're not in competition with them but just to look... Chicago is at 0.9% yoy for the month. D.C. is at 1.6% you for the month. The following are sectors which have had three or more consecutive months of decline within the Cleveland Region: -Trade, Transportation and Utilities (August -3.8% yoy) -Information (August -1.2% yoy) -Financial Activities (August -1.6% yoy) -Professional and Business Services (August -0.9% yoy) What's the main driver keeping the region afloat? Education and Health Services, which employs more people within the sector now than at any other time in the Cleveland Region's history, at close to 210,000 people (August +5.3 yoy). The sector is close to employing 100,000 MORE people than Manufacturing (August +1.3% yoy), in Cleveland. It's statistics like these that tell me the region has turned a corner. However, the statistics don't account for why the region isn't growing in population. Growth will follow jobs- and Cleveland is STILL years behind at the current job growth rate of coming back to where it was pre-NAFTA regarding employment. If we're going to compare the strengths and weaknesses of the Cleveland Region with other peer regions around the state and other parts of the country, those comparisons are warranted if they can point the business community and the elected officials here towards avenues which would create job growth.

I follow the trends occurring here which are given by the Bureau of Labor Statistics and have done so for years. I started following the statistics when I was still at CSU, and I can say that unfortunately... he's right. It's past time for the corporate community and elected officials to accept the region's shortcomings. Save for our Eds and Meds community, there has been very little growth in business since the Covid shutdown ended and without Eds and Meds, the region would be in the negative when it comes to job growth as of today. Statistically, there is no denying that.

^I would guess there’s still the chance that it’s mixed use, depending on how much of an appetite there is for new office building space after Cleveland Cliffs takes over US Steel (if it happens). I don’t think it’s a forgone conclusion that they stay in their current space. I’ve got to go through the previous pages to see the potential Gateway project and the former NuCLEus site mixed in with SW and the impact on the skyline. Fill in some (or all in my Sim City mind) of the remaining surface parking lots with low to mid rise buildings and that’s a nice looking, dense, Downtown Cleveland.

Great turnout and great to meet up again 👍👍👍

Scrappers? Maybe I’m naive but I wouldn’t expect them downtown. Learn something new everyday.

Not to beat a dead guitar horse (didn't realize whatever I originally typed in my phone ended up as "guitar"), but agreed 100% about low-rise infill around the building and on most of the other lots downtown. 10 stories or less works beautifully and creates the density we all would love to see. Case in point: D.C., and nothing more needs to be said.

...hopefully.

Calling @KJPCalling @KJP, Please Respond 😁

Glad you're ok Ken!

Thursday!

Yeah... forget putting Pittsburgh in the name. If the merger actually happens, it should remain Cleveland-Cliffs and Pittsburgh would just have to deal with it (same as us having to deal with PNC).

Surface parking, to be used for a 2nd phase tower in the future.

During the last redistributing, Jay Westbrook decided to hang it up and be one of the sacrificial lambs of the process. On the east side, Mt. Pleasant was cut up into four different wards and Zach Reed was the casualty- with Mt Pleasanr taking on a much bigger piece of Ward 4 (Ken Johnson) than before. Well, Mt. Pleasant was hiring before, and is still hurting now.

I wouldn't be too sure; this section of Glenville was strong for a very long time. Even in the 90s- Eddy Road was a beautiful street from I-90 up through where it turns into East Cleveland. But just like many other neighborhoods in the city, you had residential streets which were mainly homeowner occupied sitting directly next to streets which were mainly tenant occupied- oftentimes owned by absentee landlords who didn't care about the direction of the neighborhood to begin with. To give the site a chance, it would have to be cleaned, cleared and then rezoned for anything residential and/or mixed-use. Alternatively, cleaned and cleared for some new industrial use which would bring jobs back to the neighborhood. Part of the reason for the neighborhood's long decline is tied directly to the thousands of jobs lost at the Coit Road GM plant and Acme, along with the crack epidemic taking off locally in 1986-1987 and the spike in crime associated with it. St. Clair was still solid as far as neighborhood retail was concerned in the late 90s and the neighborhood had the income (and density) to support the businesses within the redevelopment of E. 105th/St. Clair in the early 90s. Could mixed-use work at the site, or something other than what is there currently? It worked for Battery Park, which besides having the beach at its doorstep also (now) has access to the Shoreway via W. 73rd. This site already has direct Shoreway access. I'm not pitching for it to be redeveloped as a mixed-use residential project (especially when St. Clair Ave. as a commercial corridor needs all the help it could get right now), but I am saying to never say never.