the pope

^cue response from the HBIC............

ratner.....ick

^or in my pocket as I help your shrinkage numbers

wowza, i learned something today.

thanks for the frame of referrence oberlinres

i have no idea what you just said.

i'm loving the issue 4 and how funny it would be that the tobacco lobby could trick the entire state into unwittingly voting for it.

what's wrong with la defense?

^i was thinking 1996 BBS

alright, lets stop splitting hairs. tobacco: bad alcohol: bad in a different way, but still bad.

don't hate, congratulate

i'm just joking guys. but for anyone who cares the 45 high end luxury was a rehab project, the Westin Book Cadillac done by the one and only ferchill group. Also worthless information, the mid-Market Garden lofts sold out completly in less than one day (60-70 units). If anything can be assumed, its the horrible lack of condo options in detroit in the last, oh say, 50 years.

i was sleepwalking through poli-sci and i played sonic the hedgehog, i apparently should have been a game designer

god and detroit sells 45 luxury units in one day?

i'm more of a "hip cat" than a "hep kat"

while there is no such thing as "second-hand alcohol" to ignore the social costs of alcohol is absolutely preposterous. Alcohol is a drug that contributes nothing positive to society (please refrain from, "it helped me get laid last night" type responses)

maybe i go through more porn that denim.

Issue 18: a vote to increase the tax on a pack of cigarettes by 30 cents per pack to wholly support the Arts in Cuyahoga County. So the smoker is going to be taxed another 30 cents on cigarettes to fund the arts. God forbid we tax another sin (i.e. alcohol) at the same rate we tax tobacco. What Issue 18 boils down to is nothing more than a hackneyed political money grab that can look no further than the upcoming Election or Fiscal Year. Taxing Cigarettes is a no-brainer for many politicians. 1) Smokers themselves are in the minority 2) A vote against Issue 18 could be conceived as a vote endorsing smokers (a losing agenda for any politician) and 3) A vote against Issue 18 could be conceived anti-Arts, you don’t hate the arts, do you? I have no problem with the Arts and I have no problem with the Government Taxing something that is detrimental to me or detrimental to society as a whole. Personally I’d rather see the funds go towards something say like, paying for my health care when I’m old and on Medicare, suffering from the consequences of being a smoker. Let’s start from square one; the Arts here in Cuyahoga County have a funding issue. They cite a decrease in funds from individuals and corporate donations and declining amount of support from the State. Their solution: tax cigarettes to support the arts. Cigarettes are bad, while the arts are good. The question is: why must we tax tobacco? Why not raise the tax on alcohol? Let’s not argue that Alcohol causes as many problems as tobacco and lets not make any blanket statements that Alcohol is as “Bad” for society, as Tobacco is. I present two examples: • Ontario, Canada’s excise tax on tobacco generated 1.5 Billion in revenue for the Province. While the excise tax on Alcohol generated 1.15 Billion for the Province. • The state of Maryland’s excise on tobacco generated 273 Million in revenue for the State. However, the excise tax on Alcohol in the state generated a paltry 25 Million for the state. (It should be noted that Maryland’s Tax on cigarettes is .75 cents less than Ohio’s current level, while its Alcohol Taxes are relatively comparable). Ontario receives sin tax revenue from Alcohol compared to Tobacco at a rate greater than 76%. Conversely, The State of Maryland sees only a 9% return on is two major sin taxes versus each other. Broken down further: for taxes generated from one pack of cigarettes, the state of Maryland has to sell 20 six-packs of alcohol to generate the same revenue. Ontario has seen only a 2.7% increase per year over the last 13 years in Tobacco Excise Tax income. That includes a large 34% jump in revenue in 2002 attributed to a steep increase in Federal Tobacco Taxes Furthermore, if Government continues is policy on increasing taxes on tobacco, while cutting sources of other Revenues, won’t we eventually run out of Revenue for the State? More so, if there is a direct link between price of cigarettes and consumption. (Research shows the link is stronger for banning smoking in all restaurants/bars). Bottom line: Issue 18 is a shortsighted two-bit political tactic to squeeze money out of the smallest possible political sponge. That sponge will run dry one day, and it’s only a matter of time before Alcohol suffers the same fate.

all the news articles in the world aren't going to cause critical mass to happen

There is one of these in every major shopping point in NYC. I hate going into these kinds of stores. It's a bunch of kids...selling sneakers, jeans, and attitude! Not cute! so what you guys are telling me is that downtown cleveland is getting its abercrombie back?

will you be my agent?

That's true that we are more likely to be bored by this, i just feel that between the two papers i read (PD and the Detroit Free Press) I read about one of these articles every two weeks.

i don't even know where berea is. but you can't spell "a beer" without "berea" I should work for the DDA

does anyone else get bored of the "feel-good-affluent-person-x-sick-of-the-stale-exurb-life" articles? No offense to you vulp. Honestly I'm surprised they didn't work in a referrence to richard florida.

isn't that all they know how to do in cleveland, talk?