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now my expectations are too high...if it is anything less than some sort of urban rain forest, I'll be disappointed

we all know a buildout of stark's pesht in full would be a big bang that would definately jumpstart some more serious downtown retail....but will the residential projects that are actually happening now be when they are completed? ie., flats east bank+the avenue? sounds like that addition would not be quite enough. i guess i am wondering how do you get to the magic 20k given thats about double what is downtown right now? how will the new projects = 10k of new downtown residents? it will take a lot to reach that 20k mark, but we are well on our way... the euclid/east 9-12th projects (668/Breuer/Mann) should add something close to another 1,000 when completed...Avenue District has the potential for "up to 600 housing units", Pesht calls for 350 homes based on latest revised plan, FEB calls for 300 dwellings...that's a total of 2,250 right there...I'm sure I am leaving out some others edit: oh yeah and these are dwellings/units/etc...so actual people might be that number x2?

safe to assume we are talking about more than a few potted plants? no hints even?

scroll up...it is the link included in clefan98's post...

Went a few days ago with the gf, had some empinadas that were seriously charred beyond recognition... taken from the article "....in an otherwise battered business district....", even PD food critics manage to slip in unnecessary digs? :(

you should post your comments re: the transit ticket machines in the RTA thread...JetDog/JMasek (RTA represenattives) might be able to help remedy this in some manner...

great minds think alike!

only if it is "world-class" i've grown accustomed to nothing less

put up with what? roommates in general?

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Slightly OT, but I can't wait for the Euclid Avenue, and to a much greater extent the Cleveland, 3-5 years from now, especially in this part of town. Consider that the ECTP will be in full swing, Jacobs' new 21-story on Public Square will be done, the Breuer Tower/Hotel complex is done, and the assorted residential redevelopments along the route will mostly <fingers-crossed> all be redeveloped, even the Terminal Tower should be fully restored to its original luster. Between Breuer (200 apartments), 668 (240 apartments), Statler Arms (294 suites), Eli Mann's residential remake of the CAC (103 suites) and 1001/1021/1101 block (114 apartments), and maybe even eventually the Huntingdon Building?, a 2-3 block area of Euclid alone could serve home to 1,000+ downtown residents.

that Hippodrome building was destroyed back in the 80's for what is currently there now...it was the home to a theater that was the largest in the world outside new york city, or something of that sort....

here ya go back in the day: doug price vision:

given the location, how bout a reproduction of touchdown jesus in south bend? :clap:

my whales comment was in jest!

how bout a giant mural of whales swimming a la the CPP station along the shoreway?

however very few accomplish it at his age level..it is ok to agree to disagree...you don't think he'll bounce back, i do. end of discussion

I know it is a drop in the bucket, but is he raising capital for warehouse district? Stark sells Holiday Inn in Wickliffe By STAN BULLARD 4:30 am, June 2, 2008 Developer Robert Stark has sold the Holiday Inn Cleveland-East in Wickliffe to Inn at the Wickliffe LLC, which records at the Ohio Secretary of State’s office identify as an investor group in Chattanooga, Tenn. Article Removed

in 4+ seasons in the minors he is a lifetime .285 hitter...you should not discount this body of work, esp. considering that he has been the youngest player at every level he has played...

i agree...i like Carroll...they should play him more regularly in the #2 hole...he does a lot of the little things you need, bunt, draws walks, sacrifice, plays solid defense, heady baserunner

what really stinks is that our farm system is almost completely barren of high-level hitting prospects....there is really only a couple players that project to even average major leaguers ... Jordan Brown, 4th OFer; .280, but 0 HR's this year?? where'd the power go? Trevor Crowe, Indians messed him up by trying to move him to 2B, plus injuries, hasn't hit since, had great potential at one time, htting around .150... Wes Hodges, 3B, but heard he will eventually have to transition to 1B due to injuries...maybe will see the bigs late 2009 season, still very raw Chris Gimenez, CA, great OBP, good eye, 40 walks, v. 29 Ks, may eventually replace Victor, when VMart transitions to DH/1B full time, Indians ahve struggled throughout his career to find him a position, plus he's 25, so stats should be pretty good for AA. Josh Rodriguez, SS, I am a big fan, but not sure where he fits in the team's long-term plans, AsCab/Barf insurance policy by 2010...? gotta love his power potential

true...but i think AsCab will rebound...his track record suggests that he will hit, right now he is going through the sophomore slump...plus, I place a lot more emphasis on up-the-middle defense than most do...we have a lot of ground ball pitchers, Carmona, Westbrook, Laffey, meaning a strong IF with a ton of range will do wonders...Ascab/Barfield could be a poor mans Vizquel/Alomar

Trade CC this year for whatever he can get, hopefully some top-tier prospects, but another Bartolo Colon haul should not be expected in this market. After the Hafner disaster, Dolan won't pay CC. Ideally, someone with a high OBP, speed, that can hit leadoff. I am thinking New York will be a good suitor come July, as they will be looking to try and stay with Boston/TB? down the stretch and might want to "preview" CC before signing him in the offseason. If we could land Jose Tabata (OF) and Damon Sublett (2B) out of this, that would be fantastic. Trade some of our OFers/SP for a 3B with power. Jordan Brown/Trevor Crowe/Gutierrez/Jeremy Sowers/Lofgren or some combination....Blake is not an everyday player, and Marte is a bust. I would look to Colorado and Ian Stewart. Overpay if you must. Groom Adam Miller to be your closer the rest of this year (when he comes back) and in spring training. It is clear by now to everyone that he is far too fragile to survive as a starter. Permanently DH Peralta. Drop Grady into the #3 hole to make better use of his power. Make AsCab your SS; play Barfield everyday @ 2B. Next Year's Team: 1. Jose Tabata - LF 2. Ben Francisco - RF 3. Grady Sizemore - CF 4. Jhonny Peralta - DH 5. Victor Martinez - CA 6. Ian Stewart - 3B 7. Michael Aubrey / Ryan Garko - 1B 8. Josh Barfield - 2B 9. AsCab - SS Bench:Delucci/ShopVac/utility IFer/Hafner Rotation:1. Carmona2. Lee3. Westbrook4. Laffey5. mid-tier free agent signing BullpenLewis/Perez/Betancourt/Kobayashi Closer Adam Miller

just grabbed him in fantasy!

^even with that support, ODOT wouldn't play ball...geez