Hts121

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So would I! But I did say "in the City"

NOW strong indications are that it will be Big V at 4 and Thompson is the target should we be able to secure another top 10 pick (Sacramento? Detroit?). All this is contingent, of course, on Kanter and Williams being taken ahead of #4 (although a lot of self-proclaimed 'insiders' say that the Cavs have JV higher than Kanter)

I was only referring to the east side, so I'm not sure how Tremont and Old Brooklyn got brought into the conversation..... well, on second thought, I know 'how', but still wonder 'why' I also was not trying to advocate for the 'creation' of a ghetto. I was simply advocating for better use of our limited resources. Sorry if it came accross that way and 'astonished' a poster or two. All I was saying is that it is inevitable that Cleveland, like any other major city, will have a ghetto. I think we can all agree on that. If I had my choice, it would be on the south side, not by the lake, not surrounding UC, downtown or other areas that have a legitimate shot at spill over gentrification, and not on the banks of our river. I would prefer CMHA build more Garden Valleys before they build more Lakeview Terraces. If one of the neighborhoods has to rot, I would prefer it be Kinsman, not Glenville or Hough. Just ask yourself..... if CMHA announced that it was going to build a sizeable new projects in the City, where would you prefer it go?

I would trade our Shoreway for Milwaukee's lakeside road (N. Lincoln??) and their much better lake access in a heartbeat. Agreed. Milwaukee's lakefront is the one aspect of that city that actually makes me jealous. Of course, where we have Burke.... they have their Bratenahl equivalent (without the silly municipal boundary lines, of course). NOW, back to the topic of this thread, despite what others may think about the premise.

My entire family is from Phillya and I go there often to visit. The standards just seem lower in Philly. People don't expect as much as far as housing. Armpit, no..... but unspectacular is an understatement IMO.

Every City has a ghetto and the south side is exactly where ours should be. For the greater good, all gentrification efforts on the east side should be focused north of Cedar. If a new CMHA complex is desired, it should go south.

I somewhat agree, but I don't think he lasts much longer than #4. I read yesterday that he is not expected to last past #8 because he is a "riser" on draft boards. So you could do that trade with Washington and get him at #6, but that is contingent on Kanter (the guy Washington wants) still being there at #4, which I don't expect him to be. I think Irving, Kanter and Williams will be the first three picks.

I like JJ. I thought he played exceptionally well once Baron came over. He somewhat lost that consistent inconsistency he is plagued with. But his contract is coming up in 2 years and he wants BIG $$. Rumor is there already is a sharp divide between JJ's people and the Cavs on his worth. And keep in mind that I said they would want more than just the pick. I read somewhere that they are asking for an unprotected 2012 1st round pick as well and the 2012 draft should be loaded with talented wings. I also think that Baron or Sessions will be moved very shortly, most likely Sessions. Add in the possible use of the trade exception (perhaps packaged with the #4 and/or one or both of our 2nd round picks for an impact veteran) and we could have a dramatically different looking team in a few days.

My final prediction is we end up sticking at #4 and drafting Irving at #1 and Tristan Thompson at #4. Kanter and Williams both get snatched up before #4. Drafting Thompson likely will mean adios to JJ Hickson (since they are basically the same player) and I wouldn't be surprised if he is used to get back into the first round at some point (the other team would likely have to give us more than just their pick this year). Things could get really interesting, though. It is unlikely, but not out of the question, that D Williams is there at #4. Neither the Wolves nor the Jazz really need another forward, both teams supposedly like Kanter, and the Jazz have been linked to Brandon Knight for some time. So the Wolves would have to draft Kanter at #2 and then the Jazz take Knight at #3 (or we swap picks with the Jazz once Minny passes on Williams). There is one hell of a cat and mouse game going on between the GMs and nobody wants to flinch first. Everyone knows we want Williams. Nothing will get done until the last minute.

I think that depends on where you are drawing the boundaries. It definitely has a nice population and certainly outnumbers ours by a good bit, but I don't think you can really compare "Center City" with "Downtown Cleveland" unless you were to include downtown's surrounding neighborhoods (OC, Tremont, Asiatown, etc.) I thought Center City's central business district only had something around 30,000 residents, which would still be 3x any of Ohio's. Of course, Philly itself is fairly larger than any of the 3C's

Funny how the authors chose to use the word 'nanny state' when talking about guns, motorists, and smoking but not when talking about marijuana use and gay rights. Nannies tell you what to do in your house/bedroom....... such as, don't smoke that weed in there or don't engage in sodomy. Police tell you what to do in public...... such as, don't speed, don't drive drunk, don't fire that gun in downtown, and don't smoke on that playground.

It was a demolition for one of the new CSU 'spines' which aim to make the campus and area more pedestrian friendly and walkable.

What is the former Jillian's space going to be? Someone mentioned it once, but I forgot. Great choice therese. The Fairmount has a nice relaxed setting and a great patio. Nighttown, the jazz club / restaurant, gets two thumbs up. Alladin's is a really good middle eastern restaurant. Some people are high on the Mad Greek. And of, course, walking distance to Coventry and Little Italy AND Cedar-Lee can't be beat. Cedar-Lee (about a mile to the east) is a nice strip of pubs, the public library, the best artsy-fartsy movie theatre in town, and some of the best restaraunts too. And, if you want to take a stroll up Fairmount, you are right on the border of the Fairmount historic district which has some of the largest and most beautiful homes and churches in the state.

Center City exploded around the same time Cleveland's "first" revival came about, in the early 1990's. Somehow, it maintained the momentum we lost. Also keep in mind that a big reason why there was so much construction all of a sudden is that someone 'broke the seal' on that silly non-binding pact that nothing would be built so tall that William Penn could not look out upon his forest.

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If you plan on walking it (keep in mind that it will be probably a 3-4 mile tour, then I would make the following alteration to the route (I was trying to keep you more on the main street if you were driving so not to get lost trying to find the street signs)

^ http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?topic=13775.0 Honestly, given how the economy has been the last 10 years, we are probably better for it.

It's already done. It is now the new plaza/promenade/whatever right next to the 1900 lofts

What makes you all so sure that they want a tower.... or even a downtown location?

I think Jackson's support is technically for the merit pay system included in the budget. This is separate from SB5. Personally, I have not heard terribly persuasive arguments one way or another for the teacher merit pay system. I realize it has its drawbacks and there is some cause for concern that it could be used as a subterfuge for chronnyism and patronage, but it has undeniable benefits as well. If SB5 merely contained this change and some other reasonable changes in the law, it would not likely face the same level of opposition. But the drafters overreached into the realm of political retribution and that will be the death of it. I'm not sure that a repeal of SB5 would also repeal this budget provision. I don't think it will.

If you live in Little Italy, you would be within walking distance of the Healthline, which has a stop right at Playhouse Square. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HealthLine http://www.rtahealthline.com/healthline-what-is.asp

I agree, Lakewood seems a bit out of the way and would leave them more car dependent. Btw Hts121, hows that photo thread coming along? Very slowly. I will try to have it up within a week

I actually don't find UC to be as walkable as it should be. Perhaps that will change with Uptown, though. I love, love, love Park Lane Villa in UC. It would definitely be on my short list if I was looking for a place. If you are going to attend Case, I would not suggest living in Lakewood. You could do it, but these other neighborhoods give you the option of walking/biking to school. I suppose if you lived close enough to the Red Line Rapid it wouldn't be too bad. In response to your request for specifics, you may want to take a driving/walking tour. Little Italy is in Cleveland (right on the border with Cleveland Heights). Grab a map and start in University Circle at the intersection of Mayfield Road and Euclid Ave. Just to the east of there is the heart of Little Itally (I would say the center is Mayfield and Murray Hill). Head east for about 1 mile on Mayfield from Little Italy and you will reach Coventry. Take a right (south) on Coventry and go about 1 mile to Cedar Rd then turn right (west) and you will head into Cedar Fairmount. Cedar will merge with Fairmount and, as you are leaving the neighborhood, you approach Cedar Glen Parkway which takes you back to Case and University Circle.