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No coverage from the PD, News-Herals, Sun? Couldn't have been THAT big a deal. Besides, fights at catholic school fairs, festivals are hardly commonplace. Growing up, I can remember there being quite a few at the St. Margaret Mary and St. Greg's festivals. Don't even get me started on the St. Claire dances. Not surprising either that there were a lot of girl fights. I'm not sure about the rest of the area, but at my HS there were probably 2x to 3x as many girl fights as there were guy fights.

There is a difference between a courthouse and a justice center. I'm sure the county corruption had something to do with the inflated price, but the new juvenille justice center is much more than a courthouse.

East Cleveland is a perplexing problem. Ultimately, the State and/or the County is going to need do show some leadership here. That City is done. It is beyond the point where we all can just let it fester. And Cleveland can't bare that burden on its own. Putting aside financial implications, which would be heavy, it does make sense geographically for EC to be absorbed by Cleveland..... which practically surround the City anyways. And come to think of it, Forrest Hills might instantly become the most plush Cleveland residential neighborhood. Kind of sad.

Kanter is the only one who has shunned teams to make clear that he wants to control his destination. That scares me a bit. That and the fact that he has an impressive wingspan....... for a swing player.

There is quite a bit of investigative journalism in that piece, which I think DQ's the op-ed moniker. It is as much of an op-ed piece as the SI article on OSU. Also, there seems to be this growing urge to maintain a false sense of equivolency when it comes to Fox which compels society to disregard articles like this as opinionated partisanship. I used to be guilty of that, but now refuse to engage in that charade any longer.

I disagree....... about it being an op-ed piece.

Thanks, TheBeaver. Where's Eddie Haskell, Wally, and Ms. Cleaver?

"Cleveland - What's Not to Like?" (inspired by Nick Gilbert)

My point had nothing to do with with unionized or non-unionized anything. I just don't get why we "must protect government or public employees and factory workers", from someone's post above, but non-government workers in other sectors don't deserve the same mention or protections. I've lived on both sides of this, basically every man in my family worked in either a factory (Dad worked in the same factory for 42 years), stone quarry, or mine, and I'm ex-military so I've heard all of the arguments. In fact, I went to the military so I could go to school, get an education, so I could stay out of a factory, or firehouse, etc.. Because that's what I feel people should do, take control of their own situation, work and invest in themselves in order to get out of this list of jobs that supposedly needs these protections over and beyond other people or groups of workers. My point is that the workers who pay the salary of the public or government workers need more protection and benefits in this state and country, and that should be the initial focus, or at minimum, worked concurrently with those covered in this Issue. Your initial premise is wrong. Some private sector employees, if they choose to elect to use it, have union protection and some do not. Similarly, some public employees, if they choose to elect to use it, have union protection and some do not. The Mayor's secretary does not have union protection. The Chief of Police does not have union protection. The County judges' staffs do not have union protection. The clerk in the Recorders' Office does not have union protection. Public Officials do not not have union protection. It is granted when it is appropriate because national labor laws, which cover the factory worker, the coal miner, etc., do not and can not apply to the inidividual states' public employees. It is a 10th Amendment issue. There are certain limited states that do not let ANY of their public employees collectively bargain. Also, FYI, there are plenty of people in the firehouse who have degrees. Cops and firefighters are also given preference in hiring if they are military vets. Many of them go into the military, then take advantage of the college assistance offered, then join the civil service. One thing you also might not be considering is that, in your job, your boss does not change with the whims of the voting public every few years or so. There is most likely much more stability and you don't have to worry so much about chronyism and political patronage.

I didn't realize Murdoch had 'billions' to lose

Step one would be increasing police patrol and presence, not cutting it back. For that, I would point the finger at the State more than the City. Regardless, I am not sure what you mean by 'take a tough stand against crime.' I don't know how much the City can do about that. The laws that punish these types of crimes are state laws, not city laws. The prosecutors and judges are county officials, totally seperate from the City. The City did try and take a tough stand against guns and the State fought it tooth and nail, eventually winning the litigation. Point being, the City's authority in dealing with crime is pretty much limited to policing the crime, and that is becoming an increasingly difficult task since the police (and their fellow public employees) are now the bad guys.... the drain on society.... the scum of the earth. I do agree with the sentiment that this is an unfortunate, yet somewhat unavoidable, consequence of having downtown as such a vibrant night spot. Lots of alchohol and large crowds almost inevitably lead to violence. I hope this is just an isolated incident and does not form a pattern. Has anybody been shot downtown since the perk park incident where the clinic employees were shot trying to buy drugs?

The Gold Coast in Lakewood sounds like what you are looking for. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakewood_Gold_Coast Quay 55 is too isolated for my tastes, but probably has more of a Lakefront feel than any other place..... it technically extends into the lake I believe.

They don't warn the players they recruit from the north what it feels like to be outside in August for two-a-days in SEC country with full-gear on...

Violent crime 'rate'...... big difference.

Don't believe that. Dan Gilbert and his antics have not scared off one single free agent who would have otherwise signed here. A bunch of Lebron's jock boys came to his defense, perhaps rightfully so, when Gilbert's letter was released. But nobody turned down a Cleveland offer BECAUSE of the letter, which is Gilbert's only black eye. Don't forget that it was Gilbert who told Paul Allen and the TrailBlazers to piss off when they wanted to screw Darius Miles out of the money on his contract by preventing him from playing for another team. I'm sure there are a few players who haven't. Don't forget that it is Gilbert who pampers his players (perhaps too much) and provides the best facilities in the NBA arguably.

Really, every City listed between Lorain and Strongsville are probably all equally within a margin of error..... with a lot depending on probability of reporting crimes, especially assaults.

I've always loved Cleveland Heights and have always been proud to call that my hometown. I've never wavered on that. My love for the region and state has been more of a roller coaster. At present, I have a passion for the east side, I am loving Greater Cleveland, really liking NEO, and really disliking Ohio. It's a sliding scale. For instance, I never say "I am from Ohio"..... I always say I am from "Cleveland". For whatever reason, I hate it when the response is "oh..... Ohio?". When I lived in North Carolina (Greensboro and Charlotte) it was the opposite. I always said "I live North Carolina" and took pride in that, but did not get the same sense of pride for the given City. Weird. Quirky. But it is what it is, I guess.

You called? Maybe a route would be best. Head up Cedar Glenn Pkwy from UC to Euclid Height Blvd Left on Coventry Right on Mayfield Left on Lee Right on Monticello Left on Yellowstone Right on Noble Left on Roanoke Right on Windsor Right on Cambridge Cross over Monticello and Cambridge turns into Alston Right on Bluestone Left on Noble Right on Montevista Right on Oakridge Left on Yellowstone Left on Mayfield Right on Maple Right on Shannon Left on Taylor Right on Cedar Left on Lee Right on Scarborough Left on Fairmount Left on Monmouth Right on Lee Right on South Park Veer onto North Park Right on Chesnut Hills Left on Hardcourt Right on Cedar Left on Derbyshire Left to go down to Little Italy and out of the Heights EDIT: IMO, the 'can't miss' streets are: Euclid Heights (b/t Cedar Glen and Coventry) Coventry (between Mayfield and Fairmount) Fairmount (anywhere) North Park and South Park (anywhere) Derbyshire Taylor (between Severance and Cedar) Noble (between Monticello and Mayfield) Oakridge (part of the Inglewood Historic District) Washington (between Lee and where it dead ends near Coventry - not included in the driving tour because of the dead end) Probably more that I just can't think of right now. EDIT 2: How could I forget my favorite streets in all of CH..... Hampshire and Overlook. You will have to double back for those. Probably be best just to park somewhere around Coventry and take a stroll.

Will the pool be open to the public, or just CSU students and/or residents of the apartments?

I don't know if it would be the best thing to have a bunch of drunk 20 somethings riding the train back to the suburbs at 2:30am. That said, it is certainly better than them driving their cars.

That's defamatory. I certainly did not. I was in the process of editing and didn't even notice your post until after modifying. When I looked at my list and thought about it, I made quite a few adjustments. The key here is not overall crime but crime per 1000. That made me make the changes I did. My reasons for moving UH up actually had nothing to do with JCU or rapes. It had more to do with the fact that it has such a low pop, doesn't have any really high-end areas, and is in the inner ring. EDIT: Look who's cheating now. Did you just cut and copy my list? Funny how neither one of us even bothered to list Chagrin Falls.

Total shot in the dark..... not much rhime or reason East Cleveland Lorain Maple Heights Euclid Parma Amherst Lakewood Mentor University Heights Cleveland Heights Shaker Heights Willoughby Chardon Eastlake Beachwood Solon Strongsville Westlake North Olmsted Rocky River Avon

Had to be a typo. That would have generated a lot more press if true.

Katey Rose Ln. Just off of Georgetown My dad rented a place in the Georgetown complex for a year or two, so I spent a lot of weekends there. Isolated area, but fond memories. Now, I am usually cursing when passing by there. Such a hard choice once I reach the bottom of the Euclid Creek Reservation on my bike...... take the 3 mile trek uphill through the park or try to grind it up the 1.1 mile incline on Highland..... or the worst option, Grand Blvd.

Maybe... depending on which unit you buy. You could spit at the 120th stations from the patios of some of the units closer to Euclid.