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That does make more semse. I tired to find what was at 2600 Colonel Glenn previosuly but came up with nothing. The address for First Watch is 2614 Col. Glenn, so I went from there. That lot has always been crazy. It certainly was over a decade ago when I was attending WSU, and it still was when I would go to that National City before it moved.

A couple of years ago, the owner of the remaining Cold Beer & Cheeseburgers purchased Carmel's and changed the menu a little bit. I've heard the food there is decent. It's been a few years for me, and the food wasn't too good when I did hang out there. The margaritas were the reason to go, of course. And to watch your softball-playing friend get hit on because they think he plays for the Dragons. I had no idea there was a Texas Steakhouse in Huber Heights. And what used to be at 2600 Colonel Glenn? Wasn't that National City Bank? It is entirely possible that Carmel's food has gotten better over the past few years, but when I lived in Dayton there was one thing - and one thing only - to go to Carmel's for...their extremely potent frozen margaritas. As for the food, I have never been to another Mexican restaurant where I have seen more people eating hot dogs than Mexican.

Is this the same exhibit that was at Cincinnati's Museum Center a few years back? I really regret missing that one and certainly would like to see this, regardless. If I could make it up to Cleveland from Dayton for the Baseball HOF exhibit last summer, I certainly can drive up for this. Like X, not Catholic, but a history, ahem, aficionado.

I like Troni's. I hope this is as good.

It appears the old Taco Bell/Smokin'/Apple Station location at 3002 Woodman (at Dorothy Lane next to UDF) is occupied. I didn't look closely enough to see if they were open or not, but the new place is called Jimmy's Italian Kitchen. With La Pergola gone, it's good to see another casual Italian in the area. Hooray for competiton.

So any idea where the next kiosks will be? Wilberforce? Westerville? Piqua? To me, Oberlin and Ripley are obvious. But I'm afraid I'm unfamiliar with Zanesville's part, beyond the museum that's there.

It sounds like they're following the Sonic plan of aggressive growth. Except Sonic is fairly unique and not so well known to a lot of people yet. Besides the ubiquitous UDF, there's plenty of ice cream places in the area that do the same thing that Baskin Robbins does, including Baskin Robbins. Lord knows there are plenty of vacant buildings for them to fill, though.

I am saddened by the loss of La Pergola. It was quite good for what it was, didn't pretend to be upscale like many of the Italian restaurants in the Miami Valley do, and was reasonably priced with some great lunch specials. When a chain goes out I only feel for the employees. But when a local place goes out that was not (from when I've been there) hampered by quality, it's really too bad. As for Peerless Mill, I don't think they ever fully recovered from the fire. And it's too bad. I would have dined there more often if lunch was a more available option (I work just minutes away) but alas. I will make it a point to go there before they close for good in a couple of months. Which I should have done but did not for Neil's and Dominic's and Peasant Stock and Duke's Golden Ox and . . .

Peerless Mill Closing. Historic restaurant to close in April By Mark Fisher Staff Writer Tuesday, February 26, 2008 MIAMISBURG — Peerless Mill, the historic restaurant in downtown Miamisburg that survived a devastating fire and has served diners for nearly eight decades, will close April 30, owner Gary Wiegele said today, Feb. 26. For more info, click the link www.daytondailynews.com

I believe that's the former Cold Beer & Cheesburger/Oasis Cafe location across from the Nutter Center and WSU.

The site says the location is "quite". Where exactly is this? I work right by Centerville, and have absolutely no idea where this is. Sail Boat Run? I'll cosign what conovercourt said. Your typical Florida condo complex has this dwarfed. I don't doubt Dayton is very cheap compared to the rest of the U.S. but to throw out Centerville and talk about a small reservoir as a lake seems pretty sloppy in regards to the search for examples.

Does anyone have any idea what happened to 4200 Place on Kettering Boulevard in Moraine? I had no idea it had closed. Same with Walnut Hills (the second) on Brown Street. It's a Bargo's now. When did that happen?

Once Kenny Chesney has his life-transforming concert in a couple of months, everything, including the weather will change for the better in Cleveland.

They've discovered Serpent Mound probably dates to around 1200 A.D, which would make it Fort Ancient culture. Well after Hopewell. However, some of the mounds located onsite do date much earlier. One area that nearly got nominated was the town of Ripley, especially the riverfront area, for its influence on the Underground Railroad.

Just one for now, but to paraphrase Orson Welles, the nifitest electric train set a kid could ever want to look at (History Museum at the Museum Center at Union Terminal).

Just out of curiosity, and I doubt it but I'll ask anyway, but does Kan Zaman have anything to do with the closed restaurant named Kan Zaman that was located in the Oakland Mall in Troy, Michigan? I never got a chance to try it, as it closed by the time I had an opportunity to go back after first seeing it.

I know a few Joe's in the Detroit area had been closed for about a year. Actually, about the time Landry sold them. On the Dayton B2B website article comments about Don Pablo's closing, a lot of people were wondering how that place stayed open. City Flame was good, I think it's the biggest loss to the Dayton restaurant scene. Ruby Tuesday's was the most surprising to me, but they are so close to so many other chains that serve the same basic stuff, I'm not shocked. It's too bad all those people lost their jobs but that happens in the restaurant industry, regardless of how the current economy is. These are tough times, though, now. In a couple years, who knows?

Wow. That is much earlier than I would have thought. El Nino lives.

Right now a frozen limeade sounds pretty good to me. Sorry to be such an alarmist. Five years from now there'll still be plenty of Sonics left.

Sonic does certainly have an edge, especially with dessert/breakfast/fountain options. Beyond the carhops, that is what sets them apart. I don't know, I look at Wendy's shuttering so many locations, including all of downtown Columbus and even the location on Dixie off of Little York. I look at other fast food places consolidating with 2-in-1s. And, plenty of others places not setting up so many free standing places but setting up shop inside gas station convenience stores. Even as Sonic is unique, and I actually like Sonic for what they are, I think such rapid expansion is a very bold move that could backfire.

Sonic is a MUCH larger and more unique food chain than Quizno's. Quizno's didn't have a chance in this area which is dominated by Penn Station and Subway. Sonic has no other drive up restaurants in this area to compete against except maybe an A&W on Woodman Dr and will succeed strictly on that alone. The ones they already built are packed during all business hours. In terms of oversaturation, I think the comparison is valid. 30 in five years is still 30 in five years. It doesn't say how big of an area that is, but if it's only a couple counties, that's too much. The locations in Franklin/Middletown and Hamilton don't seem swamped whenever I drive by. I didn't know the Root Beer Stande, now for sale, was an A & W. I thought it was independent. Brown's on 3rd is closed. There's also wot-a-dog in New Carlisle, but it is true there isn't much out there by way of old-fashoned drive-in restaurants. I just think that's too much, too soon.

Ooh, it's like deja vu. 30 Sonics over five years? That's more than Quizno's tried a few years back, and that seemed to work out well for them. Not.

Mythos' hours are worse the Skyline's hours. THe new Mythos is only open Monday - Friday, and they close at 4 PM. I think all of of the Mythos locations are closed by 4, and none are open on the weekends. Is that recent? In the last few months, I have had dinner at the Levee location. Or has that been moved?

Hopefully, being in a former Bill Knapp's location won't hurt it. The Thai place before Chappy's had its issues. I initially thought they were going to go into former Thirsty Dog location. I checked their website when they opened, and they did not have lunch hours. While I do understand how a restaurant of this nature would be best-suited in the evening, I think their menu would fit well for the lunch crowd.

This Georgetown (there are like four in Ohio. This is easily the most prominent as it's a county seat and has The Land of Grant tour running through it) is a pretty neat town. The Grant sites are interesting, but parking is an issue, especially for the school house. Agriculture very much rules the area.