Mr Sparkle

They were also spouting off stats about how many teams made it to the sweet 16 out of ACC/B12 and comparing that to how many made it out of the MVC, of course the more bids you get the more will make it to the 16, simply math. I wish Rafferty was the main color man on CBS...time for FudgePacker to go

yup... I also love time savers, like shorthand -- plus I spell and type like crap http://users.erols.com/amato1/AC/acr.html

both times by me ;-) IIRC = if I recall correctly

I believe that they are called 'chillitos' IIRC Chilito is mexican slang for "schlong"....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology UC (And Seton Hall) currently shown as 12 seeds (but not one of the last 4 in). Beat WVU!

yup, IIRC it was as seen from the original restaurant in East Price Hill

Who said the 'Nati was conservative ;-)

Kroger has a large "buying center" right next to my building in Blue Ash, they have a shipping center somewhere in Tri County -- so it might make sense to the positions that they are moving to Blue Ash this news, as others pointed out, means that Kroger's is growing, which is good for the whole area. Wonder how many other food related companies are here in the area b/c of Kroger's presence (Pierre, Sure Good etc) I can't comment on the specifics of the garage and the OTR store, but IMHO Kroger's deal was less one sided than the other deals recently. What big boxes are they holding onto?

http://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/cityfinance/pages/-7979-/ Check out RFQ-RFQ126DOTESUBWAY-0-2006/KM ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR A CINCINNATI SUBWAY CONVERSION STUDY Offeror to provide all necessary services required to conduct a study that would identify the work needed and estimate the cost to convert the rapid transit subway tunnels beneath Central Parkway to light rail transit (LRT) guideways. This would also include converting the three below-grade stations to ADA accessible stations. (See RFQ for complete statement of qualifications requirements.)

I'll give it to ya...but what's the name of the I/C (or future I/C)

http://local.google.com/?t=k&ll=39.372866,-84.365462&spn=0.005872,0.008873&t=k TIF's and JEDD's

Cite? Is that total spending for student, or total state spending per student

^roads? User Fees (Fed and State Gas Tax, Liscense Plate fees) ^Schools Property Taxes (I believe fund about 58% of the SD here) School District funding in OH is a heated topic ^Police and Fire Property Taxes (levies) ^Parks Property Taxes (Levy), there's both a county parks and township parks. Ohio's budget issues are as a result of sprawl? Not b/c of our idiot lawmakers?

I don't think it was "invented", it appears to be a natural progression of us to spread out. What do you call the subdivisions constructed before WW2, as early as the 20's...those with the means were spreading out well before the housing boom. I'm sure you will find as many folks that want to live in cities, as small towns, as in subdivisions. Dense cities are a relative newcomer to the scene, given the long time that humans have been sentient. BTW I agree with your thoughts about subsidies.. although now you will find more TIFs and other financing ideas. Developers usually have to pay for their infrastructure in their developments, and on the outisde too. If a waterline has to be extended, then they pay for it (well--its in the price of the homes). Yeah the utilities pay for large main extensions etc. Does it cost more to maintain spread out infrastructure? of course, which is why my water bill is twice what it was when I lived in Cincinnati

^Well, it seems like you're operating under the assumption that you know what everyone wants. Seems like you are operating under the assumption that you know what everyone should want

^I beg to differ, Mr. Sparkle. The problem with sprawl development is it does not even give the market a choice or opportunity to respond. It's more like a "take it or leave it" choice. It's interesting to note that in areas where densely-developed, walkable neighborhoods exist, these neighborhoods always command a tremendous premium over the new sprawl development. You are acting like sprwal is being forced upon everybody. IMHO the SF home is desired by the market, and will be for a while. Obviously there has been market demand for it for quite some time. As far as the new dense developments go, yes there is shortage of them, I agree, so lets build more - choice is always good -- but the dense neighborhoods aren't for everybody ^I'm curious to know what you define as "non-cohesive land uses". Granted, no one wants to live next door to an oil refinery or a craptastic Wal Mart Super Center, but what about a corner store? Neighborhood restaurants? Shopping? The way sprawl development is planned, it takes a trip in an automobile to buy a lousy loaf of bread. How is that an improvement? Cohesive land uses do include neigborhood type services, eateries, bars etc. a limited type of facilites would fit this bill, mostly service industries - but now how folks want a great wide selection of things -- there still has to be the large stores, that few would want to live nearby, or some may, the choice isn't for all. What would be your antithesis to rigorous separated land uses? ^Your second claim is even more dubious. I know I stretched a little ;-), In Cincy the first ring streetcar suburbs did not allow walking to the job centers in the Basin, at least for commuting purposes.

1) Zoning in general? or low desnity zoning in general. I doubt you would find many folks in support of mingling non-cohesive land uses together. Folks don't want to live in industrial areas nor intense commerical centers. 2) Sure, but how is that different from the past were the urban form grew around the preferred mode of transportation of the day, at the expense of the less-preferred modes?. The streetcars allowed the first suburbs develop away from the urban core and factories at the expense of walking or human or hourse powered transportation.

I'd say access to transporation (be it water or rail) or access to "safety" (e.g. Forts) were the reason why our cities were settled where they were, a much bigger factor than proximity to farmland, it so played out that the bigger urban centers came about were situated on larger areas of productive Ag land

Or the migration to the sun belt? If it were due to migration only, you would more likely see a linear relationship between population growth and developed land. I can guarantee you that North Carolina has a geometric relationship between the two phenomena. That, my friend, is Sprawl. Didn't say it was due to migration only, was pointing out why it looks like so much more since 1993 than compared to the Midwest If the population growth/density relationship being linear or geometric is what defines sprawl, then we have been sprawling since day 1 here. There probably is a factor to compare in the geometric relationship of population v. density that defines whne it is sprawl, or is it always subjective?

the Lost bridge (well it new now, but you can get to it on the road to Shaanee Lookout from 50)

Or the migration to the sun belt? "W A T E R"

"Christ Hospital, Jeebus Speaking..."

Keep in mind that the cost includes installation of a good deal of conduits and sensors up and down from the crossing to sense the train; and may include new crossing material The railroads are typically very picky about their standards as well. Fat chance, in most cases the road exists in an easement over the railroad right of way, the agency responsible for the road must pay for the crossing. The state uses contractors for the work.

'Has been' a giant garbage can, for a long time

for the highest denisty shown,128 units/Km2 is about eqivalent to 2 units per acre (1 Km2 = 247 Acres)