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it's nice to be recognized, but the scholarship i won as a national merit scholar was $500/year for 4 years, a drop in the bucket of $20k+ tuition/year.

we both had shows on wruw.

Thanks. I didn’t know that about Lake County—I was only born and raised there! (Painesville). I guess I should have paid more attention in jr. high Ohio history class. (Then again, my “teacher” was more interested in talking about football—and it was the first year ever for the SuperBowl—that’s how old I am). The most interesting fact I recall was that Abraham Lincoln made a speech from his train at the Painesville depot in 1861. Haven’t been back for a long time but I think the Mentor sprawl has spilled over into Painesville Township and Leroy, while the city itself continues to decline. PS. My only recollection of Willowick was a Chinese restaurant in a strip mall on Lakeshore Blvd. and a nearby movie theater--now probably gone--that was in the 70's. the chinese restaurant is either chin's pagoda or hundred flowers, both still there (afaik). if it was in a larger strip it was the former. funny, my history teachers were also mostly football obsessed, then tried to take credit when i became a national merit scholar. one of them pronounced Nantes (french) "nan-tease." it was bad.

OK, can you tell me how Willowick just outside Cuyahoga is less 'urban' (density 5744 ppl/sq mi) than in-county Solon (density 1058)? Just so you know, Willoughby Township was originally in Cuyahoga. Lake County was pieced together with what was northern Geauga and Willoughby Twp (now the Ws, Eastlake, Timberlake, and Lakeline) to form its current configuration. Willowick is pretty much indistinguishable from Mayfield Hts, except with less traffic since the sprawl wave of development continued thru to Mentor instead of stopping at Mayfield due to the ritzy Chagrin Valley burbs (which are somehow more urban being in Cuy). It's quicker to get downtown from western Lake than it is from Strongsville. </endrant>

I think I know the guy in the pic 2nd from the bottom, closest in view.

the toledo post is basically true, hate to say it

and while we're at it, Highland Hills isn't listed.

andaloro's in willowick is good here's a pic of one of their pies:

i'll give a vote to Cici's (aka feces, muahahaha), mostly because of the mac n cheese pizza. at first it sounded gross, but it's something you should try. most of the meat pizzas there look completely nasty (chicken = half centimeter white cubes), as well as what i call the 'nothing pizza' cuz it just looks like pizza crust with a clear glaze on it (not sure if it's cheese). i guess i am pathetic because i have been to cici's multiple times.

in 4th grade my teacher told me to "put something up" meaning "put it away." it made no sense to me, and still doesn't. my bf says "put something up" and "soda" (also "eyetalian," ...vom) he's from that lighter blue part of rural central michigan on the pop/soda/coke map.

My aunt and uncle are friends with Eddie of Eddie's Grill. Weird coincidence: my aunt and Eddie's wife were both born in Timmins, Ontario, were childhood friends, and found themselves in NE Ohio years later.

oompa The bee-yack phenomenon is not limited to Cleveland. It is the northern cities vowel shift, also happening in Chicago, Detroit, Buffalo. Sometimes I have a hard time differentiating between the names Ann and Ian, and I'm a Clevelander (and talk this way). I didn't realize Cleveland had an accent until out of area folks at Case pointed it out to me. The last couple of times I was on the East Coast people would imitate my accent mockingly. They couldn't believe I actually talk the way I do.

yeah vine st is pretty eyesore-laden

geneva-on-the-lake http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,16614.0.html

trashtabula, jk lolz!!!11!!!

Sure, Sylvania has a real downtown, and I'm aware of the difference between the township and city. I would say that a lot of people are not. Part of the reason is that Sylvania City is still a part of Sylvania Township. Being in the same school district also tends to blur people's perception of place. Mayberry is just south and west of the city limits. The boundary line is pretty zigzaggy. Riding around all I see are Welcome to the City of Sylvania signs. Here's a map of the irregular city and township boundaries: http://www.sylvaniatownship.com/PDF/Zoning%20Map%2003-2007.pdf Just north of Mayberry, north of Erie St., that twisted tangle of cul-de-sacs is within the city limits. The style of development between fringe city and township is virtually indistinguishable (I guess except for the fake water features in new twp developments).

Sprawl is still happening in Toledo, just look at western Sylvania, Monclova, and Perrysburg. Western Sylvania does have a bizarre mixed use faux downtown, "Mayberry" with a square that faces Centennial Rd. There's an ice cream shop, some restaurants, a barber, etc, with apts on top. Directly behind the square you face the sight of detached garages and asphalt. Behind that are more typically suburban condos. I only know about it from recently riding my bike in the area. The sprawl heading west along Sylvania-Metamora Rd seems to be stalling, with unfinished streets and many finished (previously owned?) homes still for sale.

Is it this one?? no it's not a human figure. it's blue with some rectangles (?) maybe i'll get a foto of it, i'll be in cle for a bit this week.

Back in the day, when everyone in England was named William, Robert, or Richard, there were so many people with the same name that several nicknames, with different initial letters, were devised. That's why we have Will and Bill; Rob and Bob; Rick, Rich, and Dick. Some of these fell out of fashion as names: Hob, Dob, Hitch... I am sure that Hick is a derivation from Richard.

iirc one of the 60s mall statues from severance is in the courtyard of the msass bldg at case.

this is probably drifting off topic, no graphics please 8^) but i am interested in what severance was like before it was "power-centered." apparently glamorous? i haven't a clue.

yes, once we started driving, i was the only one who knew how to get anywhere. but that is to be expected as a lifelong map geek. i can draw a map from memory of all the streets in wickliffe and do a pretty good job with the surrounding burbs.

personal anecdote time: i enjoyed growing up on the north side of wickliffe where i had plenty of activities at my disposal to which i could ride my bike. 2 parks, one with a pool that played The End on the radio, plenty of friends and a few relatives living close by, guitar lessons at the civic center (yes i sometimes took a guitar on my bike), corner stores to buy candy/ice cream, shoregate for other stuff (the record shop). sometimes i rode my bike to middle school in decent weather cuz the bus was lame and i could probably get home faster. as i got older i my bike territory expanded to most of euclid north of the tracks (especially to harmony park, a cool record store, now an adult store), all of willowick, the rest of wickliffe, most of willoughby and eastlake. i think the farthest east i rode to before i had a car was ultrasound music in mentor. the more exurban style areas south of wickliffe are inhospitable to cyclists. willoughby hills and highland hts were a pain in the ass. crossing som center was also a barrier. so in summary, i barely depended on anyone for my childhood entertainment-related transportation. also, my dad lived in seven hills at the time, so i felt like i had all of cleveland at my disposal, east and west sides (a positive for divorce). my awareness of the other parts of town was a lot greater than most of my friends who thought the west side was a foreign world. though i suppose that if you are from east side generica, what's the point of venturing to west side generica, a mirror image.

my friends and i at case were not in any frats but we used to tear shit up at their parties. we hung out with cia people more.

it's the same out east, cottages on streets dead ending at the lake in willowick, eastlake, willoughby...