lopsidedfrock

thought it was about the band

overheard in my city (toledo) today: "my knowledge of that part of town is sketchy at best" frankie's is the only thing i have ever patronized over there.

^how about bratenahl, bexley, whitehall, norwood indianapolis surrounds(ed?) burbs not participating in unigov. montreal has burbs inside it. there are a bunch of examples of cities annexing all the way around other cities

i'd say 75 skirts uptown, 475 doesn't really come close http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=toledo&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.214763,56.601563&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=41.655856,-83.546047&spn=0.014365,0.027637&z=15 ^map centered on uptown, just the part where the grid is 'tilted' also move the map a bit east to where it starts when you click it. it scrolls west and that is annoying me immensely :shoot:

according to wiki gran torino is set in highland park but modeled after minneapolis. i don't think highland park is seeing any newcomers. its intact neighbor hamtramck does, however, have a large south asian community.

snow: don't forget that on the east side of cleveland there is typically more snow than on the west side where hopkins airport is

yeah it's detroit's e cle its library is in similar disrepair.

a dying mall http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-217670

HUM and FAILURE are criminally underrated my ears perked up when i would hear a song by the post-failure band Year of the Rabbit all the time on wxut, during one of those automated DJ hours.

i was in this one a couple times a couple years ago. it was a no heat, roof caving in, sewage-in-basement disaster.

shredded chicken? sounds gross. is that from cincy? *ducks* guess not with that cleveland avatar. ohioans move out for jobs, not in search of culture. why would anyone move to charlotte otherwise?

i can do Willoughby some time and the other Ws with less of an identifiable town center (Wickliffe, Willowick, Willoughby Hills, Waite Hill). along with the "lakes" Eastlake, Timberlake, Lakeline. All of these were part of the original Willoughby Township.

^ every gbv show i've been to had mostly middle aged misfit frat types in attendance uo kinda fits into that

am i the only one to catch the guided by voices reference?

as long as the recession continues, we can ride that population wave of formerly-employed-20somethings-moving-in-with-the-'rents up to the 2010 census take that, projected loss of 2 electoral votes

http://www.arbys.com/about/ ......... When foodservice veterans Leroy and Forrest Raffel opened the first Arby’s in Boardman, Ohio on July 23, 1964, customers enjoyed roast beef sandwiches, potato chips, and Texas-sized iced teas. To name their new venture, the brothers decided on Arby’s, which stands for R.B., the initials of the Raffel Brothers - although many suspect the R.B. stands for roast beef. mardi gras is paczki day in toledo and cleveland also (or any polish area). they are sold at kroger. the wiki statement about greenpoint being a magnet for Polish immigration to the US may be true. Cleveland may be more Polish than NYC, but this is taking into account people like me whose long-gone great-grandparents were the immigrants. How much Polish immigration is Cleveland getting nowadays?

^i'm 26 and graduating from med school this year. it's different for me because we graduate to residency, and hospitals are always looking for cheap labor (especially from foreign grads who may have been practicing in their home country and do not need to be trained, they are here for US licensure). anyway, i'd never buy a home in toledo. a lot of my classmates did. my rent is so cheap for the house that i share (landlord lives in basement, my age, has job) that i'm fairly certain that the yearly property tax is more expensive than the yearly rent. plus, i'm not responsible for when the ceiling caves in or what have you. also, following residency most docs complete a fellowship which often times is not in the same city. then they find a real job. so mobility is key.

are pierogies available in standard supermarkets in columbus, cincy, and dayton? my friend once lived in columbia, missouri and no one ever heard of em, including store managers.

What do you think of the percent of an area being of Polish ethnicity as a proxy of culture? Buffalo, Cleveland, Toledo, Detroit, and Chicago are all heavily Polish and seem to participate in the same culture. Pittsburgh also, as I feel at home there, but with some obvious differences. I was going to offer Catholicism as the proxy, but that includes Cincinnati, which for whatever reason seems to have its own culture. I guess the Great Lakes cities all have a similar combination of geography, ethnicity, and architecture. Ohio's divisions are evident on UO. How many Clevelanders look at the Cincy posts and vice versa? Probably not many. (just in case anyone doesn't know, i'm a half-Polish Clevelander living in Toledo) Toledo culture as precarious: part of the problem with Toledo is that it's too close to the Detroit sphere of influence. National acts stop in Detroit (if we are lucky, crowds are dwindling). Toledo is close enough to Detroit to pick up on amenities available to larger metros, but it is still inconvenient to make the trek all the time. To use Macy's as a proxy for good shopping (pathetic huh?), the Macy's in Toledo is the worst one I've ever been to. In its former life as Marshall Fields it was almost as pathetic.

how about a chicago-pittsburgh line for some toledo-cle action?

yeah ann arbor is one of the things that makes toledo tolerable. a number of u toledo med faculty commute from there. i'm going to hafta visit at graduation time to see what cool stuff the rich kids throw out. and it's only about a half hour from the ohio state line. (exit 37 on 23, speed limit 70)

educational apartheid (yet self-imposed) on display i've always considered detroit to be america in fast forward

my slovenian grandma used to live there in the 40s when she first came to the states to move closer to my grandpa's family. they were in timmins, ontario, previously. she called the neighborhood, "the garbage." and that was then. they moved to collinwood, and finally wickliffe, following the yugoslav trajectory eastbound along st. clair and into lake county. my mom worked at white at their east side location, and when they moved to eastlake. the place folded just in time for her to be pregnant with me. ameriska domovina, unfortunately, printed its last issue a few months ago.

merging cle with cuy sounds all fine and dandy until everyone from westlake decides to move to avon, chagrin to bainbridge, strongsville to columbia (somehow untouched by sprawl)... there has to be tax-sharing that spans counties.