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Here's what he probably would say:

At this point, it's probably better to just not have a concert venue, build actual mixed-use development on the Lot 24 pad and potentially revisit all this later if at all. Any further discussion on this between the county, city and the Bengals will likely result in either the bad choice (CSO at current proposed location) or the worse choice (CSO on Lot 24 pad) being selected.

That bar is way too loud. I can hear their music at 3 Points. And at Rosedale, the Treehouse's tunes are so loud it overpowers Rosedale's music. The place is abrasive. Add the elements from above and I would not be surprised they get flagged as nuisance bar by police very soon.

Had some great memories of that place when it was Pleasant Perk. This place, the Dubliner and Everybody's Records were my first real jaunt into Cincinnati proper having grown up in Lebanon. Sad to see it go this way.

Doesn't the jail need to be near the courthouse? It does not have to be. Recall that the original plan was to shut down the Queensgate Facility and build a new larger jail at the Kahn's site in Camp Washington. Commissioners at the time put a sales tax on the ballot to fund the transition. That failed. https://www.citybeat.com/voices/editorial/article/13026020/new-jail-a-taxing-problem

This has been the way they've done it for tears. Even during the Mallory years. The budget is the city's biggest political football. I expect Council to make further adjustments and then like the last few years, we'll watch those revisions be pulled out one by one for potential vetoing.

Of course. It's easier to say we don't have the funds than to say it is not a priority.

Think about cities like Ashville that has tons of breweries and both Sierra Nevada and New Belgium brewing there along with Wicked Weed, Wedge, Hi-Wire, etc. They rely on tourism mostly but there is a huge scene there. A year ago my wife and I were there and we met a couple from Raleigh. When they found out we were from Cincy they said, "Ah Cincy, heard there are some great breweries there. We have to check it out."

OTR is 1/2 a square mile in size. After fifteen years of 3CDC only less than half of that area really has been revitalized.

Also, note that parking enforcement hours have now been extended to 11 pm on Thursday to Saturday in OTR south of Liberty. All the pain, none of the gain.

#PeakAmerica ;D There's even a stage with a band! Is this peak placemaking?

I think DOTE is stretched thin and probably doesn't have someone focusing on updating their website. The Main Street Safety Improvement page still says "spring 2018" even though it's now summer 2018 and it hasn't happened yet. The city moves slow on stuff like this. Also does not help that the Director position is still vacant.

The new Kroger will be 206 ft. tall. 4th and Race is 15 stories tall now. Should be just under the height of 8th and Sycamore.

Our next crack at fixing the mistakes of Oakley Station will be 40 years from now! Maybe 20 if we are lucky.

Page 11 of this presentation shows the planned route of the LRT alignment on 2nd and 3rd with a turn around on Main and Walnut. https://www.cincinnati-oh.gov/cityofcincinnati/cache/file/AB5AAC2A-B843-495A-B160075D01C31C07.pdf

It's not a conspiracy. Read Dan Hurley's book from 1981 or 1982. It outlines how after the "failure" (actually, the sabotaging by neglect) of the subway project, Central Parkway was reimagined as a "cultural corridor" in order to keep the center of downtown from moving north from Fountain Square (there is simply no question that the American Building was the beginning of what would have been a skyscraper-lined boulevard rather than the non-event that Central Parkway became). The cultural corridor was put on ice because allowing OTR to descend into chaos after WWII served the same function of scaring away investment along the Parkway. Plus, the parkway was completely cut-off from the expressway network. Logic dictated creating ramps to and from I-75 and I-71 to either end of the east/west section of the Parkway, but neither appeared, and that wasn't by accident. With the formation of 3CDC we saw the blue bloods unite to at last redevelop OTR on their own terms. That's why SCPA was moved to a new building on Central Parkway -- to use up that lot that otherwise could have been a big for-profit development that could have competed with downtown. Now we see Lindner/Cranley/3CDC acting to fill in Central Parkway north of the elbow with Lindner/Cranley/3CDC-approved stuff. I think the key to this is 3CDC. Without an organization set up the way it is (with all the power players on the organization's board), there was too much uncertainty on who controls what.

I speculate the new Stargel will be underway by late summer. Once its complete they can tear the old stadium down and start construction of the MLS stadium. There may be a way they can start on the east part of the new MLS stadium earlier but they probably can do no more than tear down the buildings and begin grading the land.

At its peak, I think MPMF could have been a regional kind of SXSW for the Midwest. There were workshops, panels, and other things going on besides concerts in bars.

The City had a plan to do that about a decade ago and all the Mt. Lookout businesses freaked!

Cincinnati is both awesome and an abyss at the same time. It is both stodgy, set in its ways, and innovative. There is hope! There is static. There is despair. Where's the water cooler? :P However on a more serious note. I think we all can agree that Cincinnati has its own challenges and there is room for improvement. I think our discussions would be more productive if we talked more about meaningful ways forward instead of getting caught up in semantics, details and naysaying. We're all urbanists (supposedly) on this board so really we're all on the same team. Picking apart arguments might be fun for some but it seriously ruins the posters credibility.

It's a direct measure of your argument's quality that a counter-argument of "nuh-uh" would have equivalent soundness and evidentiary support. If you wonder why people don't seem to be responding to you as directly as you'd like, that's why. I don't really understand your first sentence. Most here use this forum as a sort of electronic water cooler to gather around and relax while getting things off of their chest and they use Cincinnati as a sort of 'meme' through which to do it. They don't come here looking for challenging or carefully thought out discussions about Cincinnati. I'm the nerdy annoying guy who joins the group who are laughing and joking by bringing up serious or challenging ideas. That's fine with me. Support your anecdotes with real, concrete research and information! I dare you. I double dare you!!!

The problem is that you don't bring up serious or challenging ideas at all. You only come to this forum as a whiny ^[/member]#$%$ with little real information to share and even less understanding of the issues you bring up. This loser, Eeyore mentality you bring with you without proposing any ideas on ways to improve situations other than spend millions of dollars on vagaries is draining and pointlessly trolly. Just ignore me. I ignore much of what is posted here because I find it naive, foolish, or just not useful or interesting. This is just an online forum. It's not a religion. LOLZ!

Is this the first thing to go into that development since it was built a few years ago?

It looks like they will start on Elm Industries and Rosco first with Meiners a few months off from starting. If its Winter of 2018 I will say its likely to be December 30. Ha. In all seriousness, these will most likely be done in Spring of 2019 at the earliest.