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I wonder the walkway / tunnel is still there? Maybe they can add an entrance on the north side of Lorain as part of the market upgrades

y'all suck. WE HAVE NEWBIES!!!! Mayday is fun only one day a year, seriously. Next year, keep your yaps shut!! ;) For the record gotribe spotted the deception first, but I deleted his comment and explained why in a PM

if cost was not an issue, would there be any physical barrier to creating an enterance to the W. 25th station on the north side of Lorain, like a subway entrance?

If you want to complain about wasted transportation money, please turn your attention to the innerbelt.

It may be a situation where the first one to build wins. Another reason why I like the fact that the CC was not specifically built with a designated hotel attached.

For a completely rebuilt Euclid Avenue, including pipes and sewars and sidewalks, a brand new fleet of busses (BRT mobiles), more positive press than the city has seen in decades. Not to mention that most of money came from federal transportation sources. YES IT WAS VERY WELL SPENT!

This is a great conversation, but we probably need to get back on topic of local media

My brother bought a house in DS in 95. It was a surprising great neighborhood, and has only gotten better. There are lots of recent construction in the neighborhood

Man, I want to take a scrub brush to the Breuer Ameritrust tower

^Or, don't knock down housing. Continue adding more housing in battery park, and strengthen the transit options in the neighborhood. Build some density in the city.

Lets stick with the Healthline folks

^Try Parkworks

What crime sent him to jail last time? Did it involve, "improper handling of money?"

I just read that the city of Euclid is getting NOACA funds for streetscape improvements along Euclid Avenue. It got me thinking, has there been any thought on extending the Healthline east?

Lets remember that the square will be redeveloped along with the mall

I think Millenium Park in Chicago does that well, the only expanse of grass is the lawn at the band shell. Otherwise it is basically a campus of attractions, including Cloud Gate (the bean), the seasonal skating rink/restaurant patio, the Crown Fountains, the Peristyle, the Lurie Gardens, and the band shell. Cleveland at this time doesn't have the money for hugely attractions like those, but we have a model for a successful plaza like park

Will Beir Markt (?spelling) still stay open, or will it be merged with the new facility?

^Good point. Lets get back on topic.

Guess he didn't get his kickback

They will be charging slip rental, and will likely recoup the money within a year. I believe the lake is an underused asset in the city. I have no problem with this small investment

^When he bemoans the Galleria, does he talk about Gardens under Glass? When he repeats quotes from one developer saying "there is almost no hope" does he mention that Class A office space is over 90% occupied? He cherry picks the worst of Cleveland and presents it like that is the whole picture.

Spend a weekend in Houston, then Cleveland becomes a pedestrian mecca

Emmie, stay aware of how hydrated you are. If you are dehydrated, it gives the feeling of being tired.

There are some pretty wide streets in New Orleans as well. Off the top of my head, Canal, Elysian Fields, Carrolton, Poydras, Tulane, and Claiborne, are all 3 lanes wide in each direction

^it was also mentioned as a suggestion in the new group plan