3 Dog Pat

Noted. Now, back on to the discussion of Scott Wolstien's FEB project

ubanophile.com, isn't that the one blog that dictates how cities should be more like Indianapolis?

Wait a sec though, design was one of the explicit mandates of the commission- through consultants, obviously. Aside from funding and compatibility with Convention Center operations, MMPI shouldn't have the final word. I'm not complaining about what's coming out of the process, because I like it, but the way it was announced or covered was kind of misleading if the the principal design element of Mall B (the grassy slope) has essentially been decided and, because of the roof structure, is essentially fixed for decades. What plan? There was all kinds of discussion about what would be cool on Mall B. Until the grassy slope came out, there was no plan, just the surface restoration placeholder MMPI was obligated to deliver. "The plan" was supposed to come out of the commission's final report. Which it still will, but with significant structural constraints. “Our priority in this stage of the process was the pairing of a local partner with an internationally renowned landscape design firm, insuring extensive local participation and input into this project,” said MMPI senior vice president Mark Falanga in a statement to media. “Everyone involved is very pleased with the pairing of and expected outcomes from GGN and local partner McKnight Associates.” Two nonprofit organizations, ParkWorks Inc. and Cleveland Public Art, will work with MMPI to design the public spaces on the malls above the underground convention center. http://crainscleveland.com/article/20100429/FREE/100429784#

As I said in the CC/MM thread, the Seattle based landscape architect who designed Millennium Park has been hired by MMPI to design the malls. Just because there is no funding yet, doesn't mean there isn't any planning. Did we really think Mike Holmgren was going to do the planning for the mall, or just the fundraising for what MMPI wants to do

Remember MMPI has commissioned the landscape architect who did Millenium Park to help design the malls. Right now, they don't have the funding for a lot of things, but they can still plan for them. 3231 had it right, non-story

I think the process of the government taking over private land, even temporarily, is called eminent domain.

The Heathline and more specifically the complete rebuild of Euclid Avenue has driven the rebirth of the corridor. They should be proud, it has benefited the city. Dollar for dollar, what do you think will have a bigger impact on the city, the money spent on the Healthline or the money spent on the innerbelt? TBideon, has your account been hacked by a cleveland.bomb poster?

Maybe the author was upset because there was no plans for a large stainless steel bean (aka Cloudgate) or (conspiracy theory) the publisher, who is on the new group plan commission saw it and pulled it. With the same landscape architect as Millennium park, I think it is going to be hard not to have similarities

how did you hear about it strap?

flats east bank

nearly doesn't count :evil:

Thanks!

^lets wait until a better source that the scene prints something credible. Or wait until there is a named source, or an allegation, or something

Does anyone know the process from turning a federally subsidized housing project into market rate apartments?

City Council is busy tonight!

GP - a blast from the past!

There are benefits to this project other than increasing road travel connection to UC from the west side. The "forgotten triangle" industrial areas could be poised for a rebirth for medical device manufacturing. The new road will halp with transportation in and out, but also it will rememdy the brownfield areas the road goes through. Also, it is not a freeway. If it were a freeway, I would be against it. This is a new boulevard that will connect this area to the largest empoyment area in the state. I can't think of any way the areas around the new road would not benefit from having it built.

At worst, its 14 homes, at best its 4. I am a proponant of the OCB, but what are the odds that these houses are even occupied?

Look into laundry services at local laundermats. When I lived in Chitown I did the math, and it was actually cheaper for me to drop it off than to use the laundermat, not even counting the time I would spend there. Just be sure to leave a tip for the person doing it!

Lets get back on topic (Ill get into why the Army Corps of Engineers really f*cked NOLA later. It wasn't the flood walls, it was the shipping channels that were supposed to be designed not to bring in storm surge. Lets just say, it worked not so well)

what are you saying? This all leads back to Sam Miller?

Wishful thinking department: Maybe we can get a signature pedestrian bridge to go between the two highway bridges. Maybe get the same guy who is doing the one on north coast harbor, and maybe more http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2010/09/bridge_architect_miguel_rosale.html

^The Skyway has sidewalks on the city streets below it.

My favorite part of this whole story is that the voters of Cuyahoga county basically were the ones to fire him, and shake things up to try to end what seems like systemic corruption.

I need to look the specific wording of that rule. If ODOT rules it "unfeasible" it might just go away as a requirement