3 Dog Pat

Based, unscientifically using google maps. Walking from Sokolowski's to Jacobs Field is about 1.8 miles going via Abbey Ave and over L C bridge The walk/bike ride woud rougly be 0.8 miles over the innerbelt bridge. I bet you there are streets in Columbus that have a 50 mph speed limit with a sidewalk next to it. I am pretty sure they can engineer a safe bike and pedestrian path for even a 60mph bridge. I am also pretty sure that pedestrian and bike access have been included in freeway bridges across the country, including ones done by this contractor, Walsh. The federal money we recieved for this project REQUIRES bike and pedestrian access. I can see where some people would not care either way if there was pedestrian access. But to be opposed to it? Name me one good reason to be AGAINST it

I am still in shock about how ODOT just raped this city. But, hey, it is like 45% under budget! Just think if they asked for a half decent bridge, with connections for more than one transportation mode (Ohio Department of whatnow) maybe it could have come in 20% under budget and everyone would have been happy. I can't believe Strickland was so powerless against ODOT

gets him votes

its good news! 90% of current flights for two years, or cuts roughly equal to what other hubs are cutting Cleveland.com http://www.cleveland.com/business/index.ssf/2010/09/continental_united_airlines_agree_to_keep_at_least_90_of_flights_at_cleveland_hopkins_for_2_years_after_merger.html

We still don't know what its going to look like at the two ends

historic reallly? historic in that it may be the worst managed billion dollars of Ohio money ever? that is probably what they intended EDIT: OMFG!!!!!! IT IS A HUNDRED MILLION CHEAPER THAN ODOT BUDGETED, GOING TO BE BUILT A YEAR A HEAD OF SCHEDULE!! SERIOUSLY DOES ODOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING? CAN'T PUT PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO IT BECAUSE IT WOULD BE TOO EXPENSIVE, --->ACCORDING TO ODOT<---- WHO CAN'T EVEN PRICE THE BRIDGE CORRECTLY I AM AMAZED THAT THIS PROJECT CAN STILL GET ME THIS UPSET! IF ANYONE WANTS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF GOV'T IMPOTENCE VS. THE PRIVATE SECTOR, I OFFER THE INNERBELT VS. THE CC/MM.

And the winner is.....a steaming pile of poo!!!!!!

....and back to Asiatown

any "news" in the editorial?

Is Ken Lanci the guy who wants to shut down the CC and MM?

How is Serverence doing otherwise?

^Thanks

Rusty, from what I remember of the Continent, it didn't really go after typical mall stores. Northland mall was nearby. It wanted specialty retailers, offering unique things to Ohio...Euro crap. Anywho, they used to have great Friday night after work concerts there it was a really cool place to be. It also had apartments, which again, were cool at the time. I never really thought about it, but I was in the C-bus from 93-01 and at about the time Easton opened up, the Continent was struggling. Easton may have pushed it over, but the whole Morse rd / 161 area was suffering from "inner ring suburb" type problems at that time. Too far from the city core, not far enough out to be a suburban wonderland. Northland mall nosedived at the same time, the continent had a softer landing, but it looks like it went to the same place. Walker, you are a C-bus mover and shaker, at least according to my favorite former employer, Michelle Hill. Maybe your posse has some ideas for the place. High tech company incubator? Silicon village?

^Cleveland did it, it was just a lot earlier. The Ohio City neighborhood used to be a city, for instance.

^Not to be too much of a stalker, where abouts do you live? Is it possible to live in the WHD and not hear the noise on the weekends?

From my vantage point inside oil pipeline construction, Brazil, Austrailia and Indonesia are ramping up big time

I think saying it failed is a bit too harsh. It was ahead of its time. Easton was just bigger and newer

The company I work for now was just bought by the same company that owns V&M star in Y'town. They are about to start a $650 Million expansion to make seamless pipe for LNG (liquefied natural gas) My company will weld it together. Anywho, after seeing this tread, I think it is pretty cool my new company is spending 2/3s of a billion dollars investing in the Youngstown steel industry

Its cloudy today Indeed this is another example of Mayor Jackson's failed leadership. I am not sure how but am sure that it must be!

What was the church, I think it was on Cedar Hill, that was renovated into condos a couple of years back. The places were pretty high end, but for her budget it may work.

^I wish them luck, but "We saw what restaurants were doing with gourmet hamburgers and burritos and thought, 'Why not do that with grilled cheese?' ...or you heard about the 4 hour lines at Melt in Cleveland and said, that is a cool concept

worst case: who could fill the empty gates. Jet Blue? Southwest?

Where would the regional jets go, Chicago?

Be sure to spend some quality time looking at the lake, it sometimes gets left out on things to see in the city

This is a pie in the sky idea, but maybe the board can help me flesh this out into an actionable plan. Unless we all think its not feasible. I was reading about the games in Germany, and realizing that people from all over the world will be representing their countries at the Gay Games. It got me thinking, we can use the games to highlight and possibly bring back some grandeur to the Cultural Gardens along MLK. When my Dad came here in the 40's, he spent a few months in NYC, but he said the Cultural Gardens was the most beautiful thing he has ever seen. "Nothing in New York came even close" Maybe we can round up the ethnic gays with the good gardening skills to work some magic. I just think it could be a knock your socks off type of welcome for athletes coming in from around the world.