3 Dog Pat

Huh???

is there a jaw dropping avatar?

From an outsiders perspective it seems like K&D does 95% of a project top notch, then gets lazy/greedy/or just take the eye off the ball for the other 5%. That whole lease thing sounds like another shady thing all together Am I wrong, but wasn't there a mold or some ventilation problem that got people sick at Quay 55 and Pinnacle as well?

Check out the near west side, Ohio City and Detroit Shoreway areas. It will make it a longer commute, but it has pockets of new construction, nestled in with the old, and has the vibe of the Pearl dist. (and I am basing that on the two different 1 night trips I have spent in Portland..so take that for what its worth)

Will you be looking for new jobs? What industries? There is a career networking thread, and we would be happy to help you two out that way as well.

Hey Doc Broc, are any of the condo units in the Avenue loft building being rented out by the owners/developers? berkeleycms, that sounds like what you are going after. Is there a neighborhood in Portland that is your ideal? Maybe we can match it up that way? Welcome to Cleveland!

You will really need to work with a mortgage broker who specializes in 203k, as well as an inspector. Ask for references, because if they really know what they are doing, they can help you. If they don't they WILL REALLY REALLY hurt you.

So, Chicagoist, when is the next fact finding mission?

Welcome, and good luck!

That is a shame about your friends daughter. Maybe a school in the heights would be more racially sensitive?

That is a shame about Wonderbar. If anyone hears it is for sale, let me know

^Thanks again. I learned something today. I can turn off my brain for the rest of the day.

What is TLCI? and thanks for the pics. I love this block as well

^I don't think it was completed yet

Most zoning ordinaces do not let you put couches out on the front porch. Now, I am not sure how the zoning is worded, but growing up I knew you could not have inside furniture on your front porch.

the view wasn't all that good?

Welcome! I started a new thread in this section where you, and other new Clevelanders can ask "dumb" questions about the city or the culture. It will be interesting to see what strikes people as odd about the city. So, please feel free to use the page to ask all sorts of questions. We will be happy to answer. http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php/topic,22852.msg478302.html#msg478302

Think of this thread as a resource where new Clevelanders can ask questions that have bugged them, but it may sound like a dumb question. Most members from Cleveland LOVE talking about the city, It will be enjoyable for us to learn what strikes people who did not grow up here as odd, or unusual. For instance, I never knew that the term "tree lawn" is a mostly Cleveland area phrase. It is the public property, usually grassy, between the street and the sidewalk. (There is already the Cleveland relocation guide for important type questions, like where do I register to vote. This thread is more for questions like, "what is stadium mustard?")

^could you double check that link, please. It brings up an error message for me. Thanks I found it from the main sites seach function. Good article. What I found interesting is how much money from the gov't becomes available once private money, or in this case Foundation money, is put towards the project.

The timing seems so off now, since we actually have a foodie scene now.

a loft?

^they may have been right then, but they are wrong now

meh I think the anticipation and speculation got the better of me. Not sure I would have been happy with most things at this point. I saw this at Midway Airport a few years back.

That kind of mentality happens everywhere. I still want to beat my head when people argue with me because I say that Ohio State's south campus didn't need to be bulldozed, maybe helped out, but not bulldozed. Then they tell me how bad and dangerous it was. When I ask them if they had ever actully been there, the answer is always no. So, no, its not just a Cleveland thing.

Anyone want to organize a protest of Hessler Rd. residents. I'll fly up from NOLA to join. Maybe they will move out and community builders, rather than isolationists, will move in. Euclid Corridor Design Review Committee approves Uptown architecture, but hammers developer for lack of detail By Steven Litt, The Plain Dealer http://blog.cleveland.com/architecture/2010/04/euclid_corridor_design_review.html the Marons received predictable and fair criticism for the incompleteness of their presentation, which lacked detail on everything from parking to drainage and garbage pickup. ... The Swiss cheese presentation left the developers vulnerable to criticism from activists in Hessler Road neighborhood who attended the meeting. Some would be only too happy to see the project delayed and reduced, even though the developers have already cut back the scale of apartments in response to previous comments from residents. After the meeting, Janice Cogger, a Hessler resident, said she wouldn't be at all concerned if neighborhood opposition forced the Marons to halt the development temporarily. She said she was convinced the developers could retain the complex, 11-part financing package they painstakingly assembled over the past two years in the midst of a credit crisis and the worst recession since the Depression. "This project can go into next year," she said.